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Originally Posted by jdflyer1999
(Post 1811006)
Bogus. Two classes in February so that's what, 40 more from Envoy.
Goodluck! |
Originally Posted by PilotJ3
(Post 1810939)
If there's a class, there's flow.
GoodLuck! |
Originally Posted by 11B flyer
(Post 1811274)
Any indications what base the 175 will go to?
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
(Post 1811332)
Negative. All classes can be filled by undefers. Therefore NO flow. And since AA pilots will cave in, you can expect plenty of them returning back.
GoodLuck! A friend at PSA is telling me they are offering positions to their CAs, but no class dates. So, I'm going to guess that probably next couple of classes will be furlough people. |
Originally Posted by Bzzt
(Post 1811346)
Considering Envoy will have two bases when the dust settles Id go ahead and say they'll be in DFW or ORD or both.
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
(Post 1811348)
Ok, you got a point there. I would change to...if there's a new hire class, there's a flow class.
A friend at PSA is telling me they are offering positions to their CAs, but no class dates. So, I'm going to guess that probably next couple of classes will be furlough people. GoodLuck! |
Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
(Post 1811397)
AA has about 1,000 on furlough. They could all come back killing the hiring and flow for a year at least.
GoodLuck! At PSA, IOE is really delayed for new hires due to fewer training captains than they need. Losing even a couple more would have really hurt. |
Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
(Post 1811397)
AA has about 1,000 on furlough. They could all come back killing the hiring and flow for a year at least.
GoodLuck! |
Originally Posted by PilotJ3
(Post 1811418)
I understand, I expect at least 300 will come back. That still about 6months.
Any flow/street hiring impact now or throughout 2015 will be driven by internal training logjams and not external contractual issues like PBS, combining International/Domestic, etc. THOSE more significant issues are likely to snowball throughout 2016 starting about Spring. I'd still believe at least 200 AE 824's will flow in 2015 and perhaps 20-40 more. Maybe some in early 2016, but then I'd look for a significant chance for outright cessation of "new-hires" as the scheduling factors combined with returning furloughees concurrently kick in. I think you might see a "hiccup" or two this year. Not sure how many 824's are left, but if you're more then 250-300 back, your odds of significant delay are substantially increased. Just my .02........ |
Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 1811430)
There are indeed about 1000 AA pilots on deferred status to return from furlough. However, the TA that will either be ratified or rejected (most likely ratified) on Jan 30. If so, that does not require a furloughed pilot to return immediately. They may continue that status until May 2016, so a ratification will not likely mean an IMMEDIATE influx of deferees returning. Some will, but many of those who are choosing to return may indeed wait until at or close to the last minute, depending on their situation. I'd say perhaps half or about 500 (give or take 75 or so) will return.
Any flow/street hiring impact now or throughout 2015 will be driven by internal training logjams and not external contractual issues like PBS, combining International/Domestic, etc. THOSE more significant issues are likely to snowball throughout 2016 starting about Spring. I'd still believe at least 200 AE 824's will flow in 2015 and perhaps 20-40 more. Maybe some in early 2016, but then I'd look for a significant chance for outright cessation of "new-hires" as the scheduling factors combined with returning furloughees concurrently kick in. I think you might see a "hiccup" or two this year. Not sure how many 824's are left, but if you're more then 250-300 back, your odds of significant delay are substantially increased. Just my .02........ GoodLuck. |
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