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Bob Loblaw 06-10-2015 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Waitingformins (Post 1900804)
Any thing that happens to Envoy in 6 years can be applied to the whole regional industry. Envoy doesn't exist in a vacuum. If the std becomes 2k total 500 turbine, that will apply everywhere. You speak as if this is some deal of a lifetime that is driven by retirements, but only applies to Envoy.

You do realize the 6 year number they were talking about is for flow through, right? It seems as if you are taking about something different, perhaps street hire?

What is true for flow today, may not be true next year. Just like upgrade times. If you are going somewhere just because they currently have a short upgrade time you may be too late for that fast upgrade. If you avoid envoy now because the current time to flow is long, you may miss your opportunity to get through much faster than those before you did. You have to look at the situation and plans, and decide on those merits. I'm not saying envoys numbers will work like they have been stated, but they aren't impossible either.

sublime259 06-10-2015 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Waitingformins (Post 1900804)
Any thing that happens to Envoy in 6 years can be applied to the whole regional industry. Envoy doesn't exist in a vacuum. If the std becomes 2k total 500 turbine, that will apply everywhere. You speak as if this is some deal of a lifetime that is driven by retirements, but only applies to Envoy.

Alright I got nothing. I've read and re-read your post and can't figure out the point you're trying to make. All I can say is that the airline industry is changing all the time. The 6 year timeline is based on information on hand today. That information is derived from hiring forecasts, retirements, flow agreements/arbitrations, and other facts.

You're free to come up with your own predictions as to where the industry will be in 6 years.

Skyvector 06-10-2015 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Waitingformins (Post 1900804)
Any thing that happens to Envoy in 6 years can be applied to the whole regional industry. Envoy doesn't exist in a vacuum. If the std becomes 2k total 500 turbine, that will apply everywhere. You speak as if this is some deal of a lifetime that is driven by retirements, but only applies to Envoy.

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RJ Pilot 06-10-2015 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1900802)
What the hell are you talking about?

Too many strawberry daiquiris with eaglefly it seems.

Skyvector 06-10-2015 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1900928)
Too many strawberry daiquiris with eaglefly it seems.

Or too long on the Atkins diet if you want to talk about Bacon Boy. Cujo handed him a beat down on Eagle Lounge recently that I'm still laughing over.

RJ Pilot 06-10-2015 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1900936)
Or too long on the Atkins diet if you want to talk about Bacon Boy. Cujo handed him a beat down on Eagle Lounge recently that I'm still laughing over.

Ahh yes, bacon boy or poker boy either or.

What a specimen!

FirstClass 06-10-2015 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1900788)
Clearly math has never been your strong suit. You do realize that the 6 year number is for a new hire and not someone who has been here for 4 years already, correct?

Yeah dummy, its 6 years for new hires and 16 years for those currently on the property.

PilotCrusader 06-10-2015 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1900944)
Yeah dummy, its 6 years for new hires and 16 years for those currently on the property.

Hey where is the news of PSA's new increased flow that was negotiated a few weeks ago?

RJ Pilot 06-10-2015 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1900950)
Hey where is the news of PSA's new increased flow that was negotiated a few weeks ago?

Its been on hold. Just like the deliveries of envoys C7 to PSA.

JohnnyDingus 06-10-2015 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1900950)
Hey where is the news of PSA's new increased flow that was negotiated a few weeks ago?


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