Originally Posted by jumpseat2024 (Post 1644687)

Any pilot here that is not part of the 824, needs to leave as soon as possible. My hatred for this new management grows more and more every day.

Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1644697)

As a new hire though there is no reason whatsoever to come here.

Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1644697)

While I agree there is no future here I do not think it is worth it to make a lateral move. History shows those rarely work, and if you hang on til the ship sinks you'll probably get on at a major before that will ever happen.

As a new hire though there is no reason whatsoever to come here.

Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1644697)

While I agree there is no future here I do not think it is worth it to make a lateral move. History shows those rarely work, and if you hang on til the ship sinks you'll probably get on at a major before that will ever happen.

As a new hire though there is no reason whatsoever to come here.

Originally Posted by AlaskaBound (Post 1644701)

I might be a part of the rare exception part but it's worked out very well for me. Left a pilot group shrinking like crazy at the end of 2013. I had been there 6 years and was bidding at 80% and the bottom of the list was moving my way. Now 7 months later I'm 70% up the list at my new company (moving up monthly) and 49% in my base. Sat 30 days of reserve total.
Now's the time. I'm not the only one. A bunch of other guys at my old airline did the same thing and are all VERY glad they did.

Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1644703)

And where are you at?

Originally Posted by AlaskaBound (Post 1644706)

Made the move to Compass.

Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1644712)

Great move!

Originally Posted by Tsuda (Post 1644682)

Clarifications on today’s statement by ALPA

Dear Envoy Team,

After all of the communication between Envoy and union leaders over the past few months, we were disappointed to learn that ALPA leadership has written a letter to our pilots today containing a number of mischaracterizations and inaccurate statements. We’d like to set the record straight.

On March 28, our pilots voted to reject a Tentative Agreement (TA) that, if ratified, would have brought new Embraer 175 (E175) aircraft into our fleet and established Envoy as a leader among regional airlines for many years to come. While I believed the TA would have benefited our pilots and everyone at Envoy, I respected the decision by our pilots.

During negotiations and the ratification vote, we were clear in our discussions with ALPA and in communications with our pilots on this point: if the TA was rejected, American would enter into discussions with other regional carriers to fly the new aircraft. As we explained to ALPA at that time, moving on to discussions with other regional airlines was necessary for American because of the time those airlines would need to prepare for the earliest E175 deliveries. American’s discussions with other airlines began after Envoy’s pilots made their decision to not ratify the TA on March 28 and we understand that American is in the final stages of those negotiations now.

Although we had advised ALPA as to our understanding of the status of American’s negotiations, late last week ALPA leadership advised us that the union intended to make a new proposal to Envoy that would include deployment of the new aircraft at Envoy. In response, we reminded ALPA leadership of American’s ongoing negotiations and explained that American needed to complete those discussions before we are able to engage in further talks with ALPA. ALPA now contends we recently told them an offer from the union for a new TA would be “summarily rejected.” This is not accurate.

We reminded ALPA, once again, that re-engaging in negotiations at this time would further delay the completion of discussions that American is having with the other carriers and could put American’s expected E175 launch date into jeopardy.

The union also contends Envoy intends to implement a Preferential Bidding System (PBS) as punishment for rejecting the TA. This is completely false. As union leadership knows, commitments for the implementation of PBS are in the current ALPA agreement. Those commitments provide for reduced economics for our pilots if PBS was not implemented by 120 days after the restructuring contract was ratified. As part of the discussions that led to the TA, we were working with the union to avoid that penalty and, as recently as a few weeks ago, ALPA leadership informed us they were ready to move forward with implementing PBS.

While we of course respect the right of the union to communicate with its members, we won’t concede the right to set the record straight when the union’s message contains false information or any mischaracterization of communication between Envoy management and the union. We don’t enjoy having to refute our pilots union like this, but felt there was no other way.

I do want to conclude my message to you today on a positive note. Our flying business remains one of the largest regional air service providers in the country that flies for the largest airline in the world. Envoy will continue to fly approximately 200 aircraft for the foreseeable future, including our 47 larger Bombardier CRJ-700 aircraft. We’re building and improving on our culture of friendly service, dedication and teamwork and living up to our new name by serving as exceptional ambassadors and representatives to customers of the many airlines we serve.

Thank you, again, for your service to our company, our passengers and one another.

Regards,

Pedro

Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1644697)

While I agree there is no future here I do not think it is worth it to make a lateral move. History shows those rarely work, and if you hang on til the ship sinks you'll probably get on at a major before that will ever happen.

As a new hire though there is no reason whatsoever to come here.