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ccjaxpilot 04-29-2014 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by satpak77 (Post 1632322)
AA's press release says Republic will fly them, or did I mis-read it ?

American Presents the New E175 :: American Airlines Newsroom

This deal has been in place for over a year. There are now additionally 60 orders and 90 options of 175s with no home yet.

exdashtrash 04-29-2014 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by satpak77 (Post 1632322)
AA's press release says Republic will fly them, or did I mis-read it ?

Can't find a date on that press release but it appears to be old. That flying was awarded to RAH a while ago and they're close to being completely operational I believe.

AlaskaBound 04-29-2014 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by air101 (Post 1632059)
Ridiculous... they're not going to just contract out 5-10 jets that's just a waste of everyone's efforts. And they certainly won't be going to Compass.... They may split it between two carriers such as SkyWest to replace the current 200's they have flying for AA/US and then someone else. Republic can't handle it and neither can Mesa but by giving half to SkyWest that would give another operator time to get at 175 training program up and going.

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You have it ALL figured out don't cha.
What makes you so "certain" they won't go to Compass or that AA won't divvy them up between a few carriers? I can't seem to figure out why that's so unreasonable. Delta does it all day long and to me, Delta has their sh*$# together so they must be doing something right.

HeavyDriver 04-29-2014 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by EA18Gpilot (Post 1631636)
Mil pilot from the get-go, new to the part 121 game and kind of confused... So they're shopping around for another regional to place these nice, shiny new jets - but in essentially the same sentence say that they want Eagle/envoy to be this wonderful place where pilots can "upgrade" to mainline flying with AA. If they are placing so much stock in envoy and their pilots, why not let them fly their new jets? Is this some sort of "spanking" by Inc. for not taking concessions?

When I worked at Eagle 25 years ago...AMR/APA would say the same thing...Over and over and over...every year, every negotiation to every Eagle...Nothing has changed in 25 years...don't hold your breath reaching for that carrot my Eagle brothers...Management is management were ever you go, but don't sell your negotiating position short in these times....

JustAMushroom 04-29-2014 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by AlaskaBound (Post 1632334)
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You have it ALL figured out don't cha.
What makes you so "certain" they won't go to Compass or that AA won't divvy them up between a few carriers? I can't seem to figure out why that's so unreasonable. Delta does it all day long and to me, Delta has their sh*$# together so they must be doing something right.

It's because Delta owns Compass that no AA 175's will go there.

It's really going to be either Mesa, SkyWest, or Republic. Or a combo. Until AA can get another outfit to start a 175 program. There just isn't time before 1Q2015 for anyone else. Guess we will see mid May.

exdashtrash 04-29-2014 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by JustAMushroom (Post 1632366)
It's because Delta owns Compass that no AA 175's will go there.

It's really going to be either Mesa, SkyWest, or Republic. Or a combo. Until AA can get another outfit to start a 175 program. There just isn't time before 1Q2015 for anyone else. Guess we will see mid May.

Trans States Holdings owns Compass. Has for a few years now...

gojo 04-29-2014 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by JustAMushroom (Post 1632366)
It's because Delta owns Compass that no AA 175's will go there.

It's really going to be either Mesa, SkyWest, or Republic. Or a combo. Until AA can get another outfit to start a 175 program. There just isn't time before 1Q2015 for anyone else. Guess we will see mid May.

Dammit, I'm always the last to know. When did this happen?

Slick111 04-29-2014 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by satpak77 (Post 1632322)
AA's press release says Republic will fly them, or did I mis-read it ?

American Presents the New E175 :: American Airlines Newsroom


That Press Release was from AUGUST 1, 2013,......8 months ago!

Check it out: American Presents the New E175 :: American Airlines Newsroom

Kill Switch 04-29-2014 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 1632372)
Dammit, I'm always the last to know. When did this happen?

It happened after NW and DAL merged, owned by Delta by default...then Delta sold them to Trans States Holdings in 2010.

satpak77 04-29-2014 06:57 AM

keeping track of all the regionals and who owns who these days is indeed a pain in the a**


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