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bernouli 09-10-2014 04:01 AM

Careful fellas,

PatrickBateman told me awhile back that he lifts - DAILY. He can and will beat up everybody's dad if he gets angry enough.

Jetdriver7 09-10-2014 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by thefoxsays (Post 1723869)
To the OP....

You have no clue to what you are talking about.

AMR Management removed planes from the EGL fleet, which was grieved, and gave them to TSA. After that little contract for TWE flying was over, AMR brought the planes back to EGL.

Egl never took planes from TSA, but rather loaned them to TSA.

This! Not to mention how poorly the a/c were maintained upon returning.

RJ Pilot 09-10-2014 04:16 AM


Originally Posted by thefoxsays (Post 1723869)
To the OP....

You have no clue to what you are talking about.

AMR Management removed planes from the EGL fleet, which was grieved, and gave them to TSA. After that little contract for TWE flying was over, AMR brought the planes back to EGL.

Egl never took planes from TSA, but rather loaned them to TSA.

This is correct. Seems the original poster was in 3rd grade when this took place.

mr25cents 09-10-2014 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by PatrickBateman (Post 1723820)
Isn't it odd how happy you guys were when you got the 25 airplanes from TSA in 2009 putting 133 pilots on the street?

How quick we forget. Now you know how we felt.

Enjoy your evening...

"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." - Mark Twain

It's ok sonny boy, it's the internet, you're safe.

JohnGardner 09-10-2014 06:39 AM

OK now that it has been established that the OP is seriously off factually, someone please post something that will immediately get this thread closed too...

eaglefly 09-10-2014 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by thefoxsays (Post 1723869)
To the OP....

You have no clue to what you are talking about.

AMR Management removed planes from the EGL fleet, which was grieved, and gave them to TSA. After that little contract for TWE flying was over, AMR brought the planes back to EGL.

Egl never took planes from TSA, but rather loaned them to TSA.

Correct. There never were 25 airplanes involved in the first place, it was 10....at least from Eagle. They were returned to Eagle at TSA contract termination. Sadly, this is prime example of proof there are plenty of shiftless parasites infesting this profession using any and every erroneous assumption, excuse or rationalization to justify their parasitic desires. :(

deltajuliet 09-10-2014 07:20 AM

Relax guys, I think he's part of that whole Yale thing. Anyway, I have to return some video tapes.

ClickClickBoom 09-10-2014 07:27 AM

Oddly,
Pilots point little pilot peepees at one another, yet no one thinks to aim the stink eye at the true offender, management. Management made the decision, furloughed the pilots and played shuffleboard with employees lives, lets place the scorn and hate where it belongs. There is a reason why England controlled India with just 3000 officers for so long, it kept the caste system alive and strong for a long time, just like the US airline system. Wanna hate? Hate the managers and blood, retirement and QOL life sucking airline managers who make our lives miserable on a daily basis.

BSOuthisplace 09-10-2014 07:38 AM

As long as we are bringing up rumors of the past, I heard back in the 90s Eagle ALPA offered to fly AA MD-80s for $80/hr 80 hr guarantee. Is that a crazy story or is it based in fact, only reason I ask is because an old Eagle guy told me.

TrinityDawn 09-10-2014 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by PatrickBateman (Post 1723820)
Isn't it odd how happy you guys were when you got the 25 airplanes from TSA in 2009 putting 133 pilots on the street?

How quick we forget. Now you know how we felt.

Enjoy your evening...

With all due respect, you need to get your facts straight.

AMR leased 10 EMB-145's to TSA. Those aircraft were originally supposed to go to Eagle, but AMR wanted to play games with code share, inherited the TWA contracts, etc. When the contract was up, those aircraft went BACK to Eagle. We neither voted to change our CBA, nor stabbed anyone in the back for those aircraft. I don't know ANYONE that was "happy" about putting other pilots out of work. If you're going to throw stones, or attempt to justify PSA's actions, you better know what the heck you're talking about first.


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