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Old 09-09-2014 | 09:37 PM
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Default Envoy guys....

Isn't it odd how happy you guys were when you got the 25 airplanes from TSA in 2009 putting 133 pilots on the street?

How quick we forget. Now you know how we felt.

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Old 09-09-2014 | 09:53 PM
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You are joking, right?

If you are too much of an idiot to see the stark differences here between that and what has happened between AE and PSA, no one can help you.
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Old 09-09-2014 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
You are joking, right?

If you are too much of an idiot to see the stark differences here between that and what has happened between AE and PSA, no one can help you.






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What you said!
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Old 09-09-2014 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
You are joking, right?

If you are too much of an idiot to see the stark differences here between that and what has happened between AE and PSA, no one can help you.
Mother American returned 25 airplanes so they could furlough AE pilots. AE pilots were rejoicing at the fact that these airplanes were coming back to "mother Eagle" after their time serving TWE routes with an AA regional carrier.

Please explain to me the difference...

You got leased airplanes back on property only to be able to furlough and eagle guys were rejoicing at the fact that these "unstaffable" airplanes were coming back. Forgetting the fact it was putting TSA AND eagle guys on the street.

Pot meet kettle.

I loved the looks you guys gave us in MIA btw
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Old 09-10-2014 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PatrickBateman
Mother American returned 25 airplanes so they could furlough AE pilots. AE pilots were rejoicing at the fact that these airplanes were coming back to "mother Eagle" after their time serving TWE routes with an AA regional carrier.

Please explain to me the difference...

You got leased airplanes back on property only to be able to furlough and eagle guys were rejoicing at the fact that these "unstaffable" airplanes were coming back. Forgetting the fact it was putting TSA AND eagle guys on the street.

Pot meet kettle.

I loved the looks you guys gave us in MIA btw
You left out the part where PSA voted in a pay cut to get the planes while every other regional stood their ground against concessions in a time of record profit. It's not just Envoy who hates you guys. It's every regional pilot. I don't even work for Envoy.

Keep patting yourself on the back and justifying your decision though.
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Old 09-10-2014 | 01:33 AM
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RAH and XJT didn't say no under the specter of "say no and we will shut you down". What is happening to Envoy is happening because they voted no, not because PSA voted yes.
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Old 09-10-2014 | 02:58 AM
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Methinks you need some work in basic arithmetic
When did returning 10 aircraft equate to stealing flying?
Then again something about fuel accounting and theft did not help matters either
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Old 09-10-2014 | 03:23 AM
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Default Envoy guys....

TSA had those airplanes at a time when Envoy was the only regional allowed to fly AA feed. The only reason those airplanes were able to stay at TSA is because they were TWA feed before the merger between TWA and AA. When the CPAs were up they went to Envoy because they had to.

PSA voted to cut their contract at a time when the contract a wasn't even amendable. The PSA MEC could have told Parker to pound sand and not have negotiated at all instead they under take concessions in a bid to take aircraft from Envoy. Unfortunately PDT is about to do the same. We are truly out own worst enemy,
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Old 09-10-2014 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PatrickBateman
Isn't it odd how happy you guys were when you got the 25 airplanes from TSA in 2009 putting 133 pilots on the street?

How quick we forget. Now you know how we felt.

Enjoy your evening...
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Old 09-10-2014 | 03:29 AM
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To the OP....

You have no clue to what you are talking about.

AMR Management removed planes from the EGL fleet, which was grieved, and gave them to TSA. After that little contract for TWE flying was over, AMR brought the planes back to EGL.

Egl never took planes from TSA, but rather loaned them to TSA.
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