air101

Exactly. You wanted PSA to basically close the place down, just so you Eagle guys could feel better about yourselves.... that's not how it works. PSA voted down previous offers and were punished when US sent 900s to Mesa. Its unfortunate the situation Envoy has been put into, but its not PSA's fault. It's years and years of poor leadership at Envoy that has led to this entire situation. You got to do whats best for you, not what someone else wants you do. The true bottom feeders out there (Mesa, GoJet, Republic) were out there to try and swoop up the flying should PSA, Envoy, Piedmont not have played ball. It's just business. The whole regional model is broken, but to go around and try to blame PSA for the failures of Envoy is disingenuous.

prex8390

oh look another thread that goes to talking about PSA

Bigpimppilot

I guess PSA guys throwing stones believed the threats and promises. I never believe either.

Coneydog

Um...I think you misread my post.

Dunkin

Uhhh just because he said brownstreak doesn't mean he was taking a shot at the PSA pilots. No need to rehash the Envoy vs PSA discussion again for the 1000th time.

Sorry to hear the news, I've been displaced multiple times out of my base and sent back to commuting and it sucks. It has been a tough stretch but hopefully brighter days are ahead for the Envoy guys once the 175s show up.

PilotJ3

Looks like the company and ALPA are back on the table. Flow and "career to AA" did not brough applicants and NH as they thought.

Smells like some QOL might get better eventually.

yimke

Well, that escalated quickly. I think Bric killed a guy.

Bzzt

No matter what happens you guys always start some sort of rumor that "things will get better". The writing is on the wall, it's not getting any better. For your sake quit deluding yourself and get out of there.

Slick111

Really? Please tell us about the other times when PSA did something "at the expense of another pilot group". Please!

Get this, junior. PSA voted no to concessions in exchange for additional/new shiny jets TWICE previously.

The first time they voted "no", those jets went to Mesa. The second time they voted "no", those jets went to Republic. The third time PSA pilots were offered new/additional aircraft it came with the caveat that if they voted "no" again,...... their little 49 airplane, 450 pilot operation would be shut down. Clearly they, (AND A.L.P.A.!!!) believed it!

Sound familiar? "Vote no and jets go to another carrier", (like, say.... COMPASS!). "Vote no again and jets go to another carrier", (like,..... REPUBLIC!). "Vote no a third time and we'll shrink you to non-existence"?

So again, PLEASE tell us when, (in your mind), PSA pilots took advantage of a situation,......"at the expense of another pilot group". PLEASE!

DOGIII

Signing the TA should have changed the landscape somewhat, for better or worse.
What is your forecast?