Yeah, it's pretty crappy to have fast movement and have a better QOL rather being at another carrier making crap money for 5-8 years. Why are FO's bailing other regionals to come to PSA? Can you explain that?


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.... but there's no problem with envoy pilots who accepted a bribe, ratified the same deal, (to save THEIR jobs), and lowered the bar for all pilots and those who will follow, because they voted "no" twice before accepting the same concessionary contract, .... and besides, ........ their jobs where on the line. Got it!

Do you even know the definition of the word "hypocrisy"?

 

I know Envoy made negotiations at places like TSA a lot more difficult.

 

You PSA guys didn't vote to save your jobs, you voted to take airplanes from Eagle and hasten your upgrades because it was a good career opportunity. It's as simple as that. Eagle had freshly rejected the company when you guys volunteered for the concessions. To deny this is a lie.

 

 

Really.. Come on! What's done is done. Let it Go!

 

 

PSA's NC was told that if we did not ratify the offer, the leases on the CRJ200 would not be extended. (shut down starting date 2017) As Envoy has painfully found out, Dallas doesn't say something they are not going to follow through with. Remember, PSA was presented with aircraft in the past. We were told if you say "no" they will go to (Mesa, Republic) and offer them the airframes. We were also made sure that we knew that neither group had to get a pilot ratification. We said no and he did as he said. I know that on the heels of your concessions after BR, you didn't want to take it in the shorts a 2nd time. But, you were no longer negotiating with AMR, you were negotiating with Parker. As you can see and we have known, he does as he says.
As for lowering the bar on a contract, we get an annual bonus that by far exceeds the small increases in medical. 4/12 alone sounds like a concession. It wasn't an issue once the rest of the contract was taken into consideration. SDO and CCP has given an individual the ability to work as little or as much as they wish. Also making more money than anyone on property has seen. I will personally vouch for that.
I am sorry this has bled into Envoy threads, but I would like to clear-up some of these issues with facts.
I voted no because the TA was wrong and was damaging to a contract we just ratified 4 months earlier. It's passing just made me realize that there is no brotherhood.
Respectfully, 39%

 

you mean everyone at eagle? because everyone at the majors doesn't know and doesn't care

 

Gradual shut down as other regionals and AA take the routes/planes. AAG has no incentive to prop Envoy up with an Endeavour style deal due to the fact that the regionals they're contracting with now are all staffing the flying. I predict the 824 will flow but no protected pilot or new hire will see an AA cockpit through the flow mechanism.