Envoy to have 100% of AA New Hire Class
03-20-2015, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
PSA does NOT have a flow to AA. That is a HUGE misconception that keeps floating around.
Since PSA(and PDT) or only moving on to Airways that leaves 100% of AA classes to Envoy.
03-20-2015, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
PSA does NOT have a flow to AA. That is a HUGE misconception that keeps floating around.
In regards to Envoy, the message coming down from AA is that a MINIMUM of 20 Envoy pilots will flow per month for the rest of the year except June (due to recalls). 20 is a minimum number and is regardless of how many new-hires AA actually has, even if that puts Envoy flow-throughs above the minimum 50% of each class. So if 20 is all AA hires in May(for example) all 20 (100%) will be from Envoy.
Moving on, AA projects to hire 590 in 2015. Envoy pilots have to be 50% of each class. That puts 50 a month from Envoy flowing through to AA per month.
We will see how this actually shakes out, but it is a massive step in the right direction on behalf of AA. Talk is that once the US Airways/AA merger is finally complete next month AA will shift their focus on improving the Regional side of things.
In regards to Envoy, the message coming down from AA is that a MINIMUM of 20 Envoy pilots will flow per month for the rest of the year except June (due to recalls). 20 is a minimum number and is regardless of how many new-hires AA actually has, even if that puts Envoy flow-throughs above the minimum 50% of each class. So if 20 is all AA hires in May(for example) all 20 (100%) will be from Envoy.
Moving on, AA projects to hire 590 in 2015. Envoy pilots have to be 50% of each class. That puts 50 a month from Envoy flowing through to AA per month.
We will see how this actually shakes out, but it is a massive step in the right direction on behalf of AA. Talk is that once the US Airways/AA merger is finally complete next month AA will shift their focus on improving the Regional side of things.
03-20-2015, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear
It is 50% but they can meter down to no less than 20 per month. So 20 a month it will be not 50 a month.
What we do know is that the minimum is 20 per month or 50%. If they will meter and by how much remains to be seen. Even with a metered flow, 20 per month flowing to AA is huge.
03-20-2015, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
Moving on, AA projects to hire 590 in 2015. Envoy pilots have to be 50% of each class. That puts 50 a month from Envoy flowing through to AA per month.
03-20-2015, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Name User
Where did you hear this? Mainline is losing 30 aircraft in 2015, projected -400 pilots. The Airways side is only going to hire 70. I can't imagine the AA side needs over 500 new hires for the year, their retirement numbers are less than US.
03-20-2015, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
You know this for sure? That's impressive. I'm not saying they won't meter down to 20, but neither one of us knows exactly what they will do.
What we do know is that the minimum is 20 per month or 50%. If they will meter and by how much remains to be seen. Even with a metered flow, 20 per month flowing to AA is huge.
What we do know is that the minimum is 20 per month or 50%. If they will meter and by how much remains to be seen. Even with a metered flow, 20 per month flowing to AA is huge.
03-20-2015, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
I don't know or care about United. But the AA/Airways merger is to be completed next month. I guess if we wanted to really play this game we could bring up the Delta/NWA merger which didn't go nearly as smooth as the current AA one. And that worked out pretty well. The debacle at United is not industry standard.
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