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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
(Post 1852749)
The only problem is that the "protected pilots" agreement it says that is for anyone on Envoy seniority list before 10-11-2011. They can recalculate the hires after that date, not before.
Other than that I think you're right. You can expect that if you choose to transfer at the time of acquisition of remaining Envoy assets, you'll have to accept employment under the acquirers pilots CBA and that includes their pay scales (18-year won't exist), the flow structure then in place or one negotiated to benefit all pilots based on seniority without favor and seniority to be arbitrated. You of course will have the option to decline those requirements and seek employment elsewhere. AAG isn't going to consolidate the dinosaur Envoy (AAG's belief of their competitive pilot labor costs and benefits relative to the industry) and retain all their albatrossian aspects or create a caste system within the consolidated carrier. Your MEC will agree to whatever terms are offered as the other option would be far worse for the pilots. They will have no choice. |
Originally Posted by snippercr
(Post 1852795)
My understanding is that there is no order planned for group 1 aircraft and that Parker even said having the 20 190s is too small to justify the fleet.
Parker stated that the 190's will either grow or go away. |
Originally Posted by jdflyer1999
(Post 1852812)
No current order.
Parker stated that the 190's will either grow or go away. |
From my understanding, from someone "in the know" (take that for what you will... All I know is this is what they said), AAG and UAL are both looking at "very large" orders of 100 - 150 seat jets to offset the anticipated shrinking of their regionals over the next 3 to 5 years. I know they said UAL is looking very closely at the new Bombardier C-Series, and that an "improved" E-190 may also be an option. They said AAG is likely looking at the same and I would imagine DAL too. I did ask if they knew anything about the MRJ and they said they "didn't know" but thought it would be doubtful mainline would buy anything with the name Mitsubishi attached to it.
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Why is it beneath them?
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Originally Posted by buddies8
(Post 1852934)
Why is it beneath them?
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Originally Posted by tvlawyer
(Post 1855183)
Maybe it's because Mitsubishi has never built a safe nor reliable civil aircraft in its history.
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
(Post 1852844)
From my understanding, from someone "in the know" (take that for what you will... All I know is this is what they said), AAG and UAL are both looking at "very large" orders of 100 - 150 seat jets to offset the anticipated shrinking of their regionals over the next 3 to 5 years. I know they said UAL is looking very closely at the new Bombardier C-Series, and that an "improved" E-190 may also be an option. They said AAG is likely looking at the same and I would imagine DAL too. I did ask if they knew anything about the MRJ and they said they "didn't know" but thought it would be doubtful mainline would buy anything with the name Mitsubishi attached to it.
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
(Post 1855235)
AAG announced weeks ago they were looking at their E190 operation. It was either going to be discontinued, or greatly expanded.
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
(Post 1852139)
Someone made a post to say that Envoy has too many pilots and not to come here. Just wanted to share the other half of the paragraph the other OP did not, because it looks like FOs may get $20k. It deserves its own thread as much as the other topic does.
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