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Bzzt 07-04-2015 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1921918)
QOL? Hum...let's see...

Since you left we've gain things that other regionals don't have. Like hotels for OT, 4 hotels a month for commuters, hotels in domicile if you get removed from a overnight. Critical Coverage OT at 200% and regular OT at 150%.

MIA crews got nice TDY with A1 and A3 pases. Also got removed from the first and last turn for commute. Probably something similar will happen when they close NY.

They need us more that what we need them. And clearly AAG it's starting to see the value on us...getting MESA flying for June/July/August, which probably will be extended. Envoy management is trying to get us more flying because our attrition has slowed down significaly.

So I would say, it will take time to repair morale. But I think once the 175s get into property the KoolAid will be on.

I'm pretty sure Commutair provides hotels for commuters.

I guess the OT is nice if that's your thing but isn't Envoy building 11 and 12 day off lines? I'm certainly not picking up OT if I'm only getting 11 to 12 off with no commutability.

You can spin it how you want, there are contracts significantly better than Envoy. Its not the worst but let's not pretend it's industry leading.

diva 07-07-2015 05:21 AM

Envoy receives an additional 4-500 hours worth of flying from AAG !

It's a Good time to be a Envoy pilot !

WmuGrad07 07-07-2015 06:49 AM

At least you can see some glimmer of hope Diva... From what I've heard lately the lines are miserable and aren't getting better any time soon. That was the same story 8 months ago when I left, and the same thing I heard for the years previous... "It'll get better," and it did when I resigned.

I loved American Eagle, and hated Envoy. Best of luck

N927EV 07-07-2015 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by diva (Post 1923601)
Envoy receives an additional 4-500 hours worth of flying from AAG !

It's a Good time to be a Envoy pilot !

For. One. Whole. Month. Wow!!

pagey 07-07-2015 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by diva (Post 1923601)
Envoy receives an additional 4-500 hours worth of flying from AAG !

It's a Good time to be a Envoy pilot !

4-500 hours.....

Wow, what is that like 8 lines?

So happy for you.

Bzzt 07-07-2015 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1923693)
4-500 hours.....

Wow, what is that like 8 lines?

So happy for you.

The way Envoy does things probably not. They'll put it in open time so guys with 11 days off can pick it up for OT and the stuff that doesn't get picked up they'll assign to the legion of reserves.

snippercr 07-07-2015 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1923836)
The way Envoy does things probably not. They'll put it in open time so guys with 11 days off can pick it up for OT and the stuff that doesn't get picked up they'll assign to the legion of reserves.

Not with the new OT RF mask...It will just go to reserves

atpcliff 07-08-2015 05:22 PM


There will not be 360 flows next year. Wilson's last communique revised that downward to about this years numbers which will be WELL short of 360. The last statement based 20-30 flows per month
20 is 240 for the year. 30 is 360 for the year.

360=360.

AnotherEagleGuy 07-08-2015 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by diva (Post 1923601)

It's a Good time to be a Envoy pilot !

As long as Ric Wilson runs the show, it is never a good time to be an Envoy pilot.

Want minimum days off with minimum pay and large sits? Uncommutable 4 day trips (the only trip options now)? Then Envoy is the place for you.

Like hostile work environments? Then you will love Envoy.

Come to the airline where your own VP Flight Ops hates his own pilots, restricts flow, and makes industry bottom QOL policies.

Call now, the operators are waiting!

JT8D 07-08-2015 10:21 PM

^^ Finally, someone who gets it!!


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