I hate woody allen

Lol, no you're just as good as the other sales folk on here. But there is no evidence you are getting those aircraft. There never has been, simply conjecture and mostly just lies to sway people to envoy. Tout the flow all you want, but you're not getting RAH aircraft anytime soon.


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Time will tell. Don't get me wrong. I have friends at RAH and I wouldn't want to see them or any pilot lose their job. As has been pointed out several times, there will be a lot of changes in the regional industry in the coming years.


As a historical point of how AMR/AAG has done business in the past. Research how Eagle got its first E145 jets in 1997.

I've said it before, IF RAH had to stop some flying due to staffing, WHY would they stop the AAG 175 flying when they've said that is their goal (large RJ)? Wouldn't it make sense to park their not-175 flying?

The only large RJs that AAG will own end in NN.

It would make the most sense, but considering Delta just renewed the 145 contract in the last year or so, it might not be that easy. (I am in no way advocating one outcome or the other)

Check our APC page, it's all broken down on there. We are just coming up on half way through the 824.

Court order that RAH must fulfill its UAL flying prior to AAG flying

It is really pathetic that you girls at Envoy **** and moan about losing 700's to PSA and yet here you are drooling over the thought of getting 175's from RAH. Just goes to prove you are a bunch of tools.

That is very possible. I don't know anymore than anyone else. I've just scene some very unlikely scenarios play out in this industry. Do you think that APA saw AMR positioning Business Express to purchase the aircraft for Eagle before the vote? (That was a deal that Bedford was a part of BTW.) If you would have told me 10 years ago that I would one day have a Comair Captain as my FO and that we would be seeing a former Comair CRJ 200 parked at an L-Eagle gate doing AA flying flowned by SkyWest Pilots, I wouldn't have believed you. Do you think that a TWA newhire in 1989 would have guessed that he would one day being flying a 50 seat "regional" jet at AE?

I am sure that Bedford, if given the choice, would dump all flying except AA. Its probably his most lucrative contract. I doubt that UA, DA and the US Federal Court system would allow that to happen though. The likelihood of RAH not fulfilling all their obligations is a guarantee. I think we can all agree on that. Those contracts contain financial penalties for failing to fulfill those obligations. Do you think that if Parker agreed to waive those penalties in exchange for taking ownership of some of those E175s that Bedford wouldn't take it?

The only thing that I fully have confidence in Parker about is, he will pursue the cheapest route possible. If it saves him money to cut a deal with Bedford and put some of RAH's E175s at another carrier that can staff them, he WILL do it.

I have to disagree. Parker did not offer the flows (and SSP) as, primarily, a recruitment and retention tool. He devised the flows as purely a COST CUTTING measure.

Parker wanted to get rid of those expensive $120,000+, sixteen- year RJ and Dash Captains and replace them with $60,000, three-year Captains. And in the process, he'd be replacing $40,000 three-year F.O.s with $22,000 newhires.

Recruitment was not his main goal and "retention" was the further thing from his mind. In fact, the recruitment and retention gains were an unintended benefit,...... "icing on the cake" if you will.