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Machwon 08-12-2015 08:21 PM

Most jr to flow in the Aug 5th class was a 5/99 Doh. Most jr awarded and waiting for class is a 7/99. There are roughly 415 guys between 7/99 and 1/04. Only 142 people hired in 04. Will all those guys wait around to flow? Will all of those that do wait around choose to flow? So those numbers will decrease causing flow time to drop even more. I'd say in the next 16-24 months the flow will drop from 16 to 12 years.

SpreadEagle 08-13-2015 06:11 AM

Not Conjecture Skyvector...
 
This information was taken directly from the DFW LEC Treasurer after attending a union meeting regarding the flow-through to AA. In other news...there was a surprisingly large interview class this week at envoy...around 20 applicants. I have no idea what lies they are telling applicants to garner that kind of interest...

Zflight 08-13-2015 06:22 AM

Come to envoy we're not republic?

PilotJ3 08-13-2015 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by SpreadEagle (Post 1948543)
This information was taken directly from the DFW LEC Treasurer after attending a union meeting regarding the flow-through to AA. In other news...there was a surprisingly large interview class this week at envoy...around 20 applicants. I have no idea what lies they are telling applicants to garner that kind of interest...

I'll tell you why?

- E-175 arriving (SJs for new hires). Heck they might even be able to hold line in the 175 while the 145 guys still on reserve.
- The flow will keep the movement, if we can keep getting new hires
- 7/6/5 yr FOs would be able to upgrade in the next 1.5yr. Meaning upgrade will go down. Once it pass 2008hires will go down 2 years. Once it gets to the 2011 hires...it will go Dow very quickly.
- anyone hire here will basically reserve a spot into AA, while trying to move to other places.

It's not all doom and gloom. Not because our last 3 years sucked, means the next 3 have to suck. If we don't get new guys, guess what? You will stay stuck where you are.

I don't sell lies. Yes, the upgrade is 8yrs, the flow will keep going down as the old guys leave. So in reality anyone hired now should be in a good position whitin the next 5-8 years. Yes, it's not a fast upgrade, but still if you go to PSA/Mesa it will take you about the same amount of time to get hired elsewhere. That's assuming a brand new 0 time P121 hire.

PilotJ3 08-13-2015 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by Zflight (Post 1948548)
Come to envoy we're not republic?

Exactly, we passed the Bk and getting in trouble stage already.

RJ Pilot 08-13-2015 02:06 PM

Good Luck with ya'lls new members of the MEC.

The Cuj will keep milking that cow till she dies! But from the bottom of my heart, Good Luck! I really mean it.

Good Luck!

N927EV 08-13-2015 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1948753)
Good Luck with ya'lls new members of the MEC.

The Cuj will keep milking that cow till she dies! But from the bottom of my heart, Good Luck! I really mean it.

Good Luck!

How's the Gv treating ya?




LOL

RJ Pilot 08-13-2015 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by N927EV (Post 1948763)
How's the Gv treating ya?




LOL

Good! OGG tomm!

Good Luck!

N927EV 08-13-2015 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1948775)
Good! OGG tomm!

Good Luck!

Lol...


Yeah, I left eagle to fly the Concorde at British airways. So glad to have gotten out of there too!!

snippercr 08-13-2015 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1948753)
Good Luck with ya'lls new members of the MEC.

The Cuj will keep milking that cow till she dies! But from the bottom of my heart, Good Luck! I really mean it.

Good Luck!

We believe you! We mean that completely !

We believe you !


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