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09-11-2015, 08:03 AM

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snippercr

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Originally Posted by porkins89

How many is Envoy interviewing and hiring each month?

Interviewing is one thing, warm bodies in class is another. Actually I prefer warm bodies on the line and still there 1 year late.

Either way, August supposedly we had 28 new hires. Havent had those numbers since pre BK in 2011.

09-11-2015, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiner

New hires could be starting on the 175 sooner than originally planned. We've only had 1 bid for the 175 and it went very senior on the FO side. A month later, a CA vacancy was run, and many of those senior 175 FO (who hadn't gone to training) were awarded CA. They haven't run a bid to replace those 175 FO's and these spots could go to new hires.

That is what I was thinking. Plus I am guessing, it takes about 2 1/2 months to go from Indoc through IOE. I am sure they would rather send a new hire home for a few weeks rather than not having enough qualified pilots which is why I would guess they would start them by early December. I guess we won't know until they actually get offered in class.

I echo the advice though, in an industry ruled by seniority, getting on as soon as possible is wiser than holding out for a certain aircraft. Years later when you are bidding a CA spot or a Flowthrough class, you are not going to care what you flew as a newhire. Especially if the news about the flow and returning block hours creates a wave of newhires, you further one is on the front side of that wave the better their QOL, upgrade and flow prospects will be.

09-11-2015, 08:14 AM

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There are 7 guys in a CRJ 700 class that just finished systems.

09-11-2015, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by snippercr

Yeah I'd say that's a pretty significant amount. Sounds like they are doing a decent job recruiting.

09-11-2015, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by porkins89

Yeah I'd say that's a pretty significant amount. Sounds like they are doing a decent job recruiting.

Wholly owned with a flow is the way to go now. Shinny jets and fast upgrade in a private/publicly held company is so very uncertain right now.

09-11-2015, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Duct Mon

Wholly owned with a flow is the way to go now. Shinny jets and fast upgrade in a private/publicly held company is so very uncertain right now.

True. Although Envoy has the added benefit of also having "shiny jets". Or soon to have them in a couple of months I should say.

09-11-2015, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Duct Mon

Wholly owned with a flow is the way to go now. Shinny jets and fast upgrade in a private/publicly held company is so very uncertain right now.

I would think that as the regionals shrink due to the shortage of pilots, will Parker invest in the wholly owned over a contractor. Why would they put money into RAH, Mesa, Xjet, SKW while letting their own assets sit idle? I would expect AAG to continue to offer more incentives for their wholly owned companies while refusing to pay more at the contracted carriers.