Envoy questions
#41
I live in the metroplex and was curious about the training schedule. If I decide to chase the Envoy signing bonus and retention carrot then I'll be at home during training.
Basically: should I tell the wife that I can still take the kids to baseball practice and Boy Scouts or not?
I mean...my friend was asking...I couldn't care less!
Basically: should I tell the wife that I can still take the kids to baseball practice and Boy Scouts or not?
I mean...my friend was asking...I couldn't care less!
Saturday's and Sunday's are off until sim. Then it varies.
#43
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I live in the metroplex and was curious about the training schedule. If I decide to chase the Envoy signing bonus and retention carrot then I'll be at home during training.
Basically: should I tell the wife that I can still take the kids to baseball practice and Boy Scouts or not?
I mean...my friend was asking...I couldn't care less!
Basically: should I tell the wife that I can still take the kids to baseball practice and Boy Scouts or not?
I mean...my friend was asking...I couldn't care less!
#44
Envoy is no better than Mesa these days. A total sh*t hole with management in open war against the pilot group. Stay away. Do not believe the lies. We still have eight-year FOs and that will not be changing any time soon.
#45
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It's apparent that you have an axe to grind with Envoy and aren't objective. There are a few others on this board that like you, seem to have as their life's mission, smearing Envoy and Envoy management while cooking up false facts.
I would suggest talking to some people who really work at Envoy if you really want the truth.
#46
You are twisting the facts. The upgrade is coming down quickly. In fact, we just announced 87 new upgrades last week. As the flow continues, you'll see more upgrades in the future. You can expect a person hired today to flow to AA in just under 6 years.
It's apparent that you have an axe to grind with Envoy and aren't objective. There are a few others on this board that like you, seem to have as their life's mission, smearing Envoy and Envoy management while cooking up false facts.
I would suggest talking to some people who really work at Envoy if you really want the truth.
It's apparent that you have an axe to grind with Envoy and aren't objective. There are a few others on this board that like you, seem to have as their life's mission, smearing Envoy and Envoy management while cooking up false facts.
I would suggest talking to some people who really work at Envoy if you really want the truth.
#47
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You are twisting the facts. The upgrade is coming down quickly. In fact, we just announced 87 new upgrades last week. As the flow continues, you'll see more upgrades in the future. You can expect a person hired today to flow to AA in just under 6 years.
It's apparent that you have an axe to grind with Envoy and aren't objective. There are a few others on this board that like you, seem to have as their life's mission, smearing Envoy and Envoy management while cooking up false facts.
I would suggest talking to some people who really work at Envoy if you really want the truth.
It's apparent that you have an axe to grind with Envoy and aren't objective. There are a few others on this board that like you, seem to have as their life's mission, smearing Envoy and Envoy management while cooking up false facts.
I would suggest talking to some people who really work at Envoy if you really want the truth.
LOL !

The facts are that nothing has changed there regarding upgrade/flow since last year. Approximately 205 upgrades are forecast that like the weather can change and the Letter T situation at AA being an unknown variable means no concrete number of flows can be guesstimated for 2016, let along beyond a half decade out. A salesman may take some time off, but when they return, they're goal is usually still sales.
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Here's a basic math lesson for you. Envoy currently has roughly 2000 pilots. If 360 flow per year, that's about a 5 1/2 year upgrade. We already know that the top 200 or so pilots are not flowing. Let's just say that all 2000 on the list are going to flow. 2000 / 360 = 5.5.
There's your math. Got anything that's useful you'd like to discuss now?
#49
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Like you ?
LOL !
The facts are that nothing has changed there regarding upgrade/flow since last year. Approximately 205 upgrades are forecast that like the weather can change and the Letter T situation at AA being an unknown variable means no concrete number of flows can be guesstimated for 2016, let along beyond a half decade out. A salesman may take some time off, but when they return, they're goal is usually still sales.
LOL !

The facts are that nothing has changed there regarding upgrade/flow since last year. Approximately 205 upgrades are forecast that like the weather can change and the Letter T situation at AA being an unknown variable means no concrete number of flows can be guesstimated for 2016, let along beyond a half decade out. A salesman may take some time off, but when they return, they're goal is usually still sales.
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I figured the axe grinder would make an appearance here. For those who aren't familiar, eaglefly doesn't even work here! So, if you want to take advice from someone who claims to know all of the internal workings of Envoy that doesn't even work at the company. Well, I'll let you be the judge of his foolish statement above.
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