Envoy questions
03-11-2016 | 01:03 PM
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Since when do new hires flow at a rate of 360/year?
They aren't in the 824 or protected pilot group. Their flow is reduced to quite a bit less. So That math is pretty f-d up. I seriously doubt even in the 824 or protected group we ever see 360/year anyway. Not even close this year with recalls.
They aren't in the 824 or protected pilot group. Their flow is reduced to quite a bit less. So That math is pretty f-d up. I seriously doubt even in the 824 or protected group we ever see 360/year anyway. Not even close this year with recalls.
03-11-2016 | 01:12 PM
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Since when do new hires flow at a rate of 360/year?
They aren't in the 824 or protected pilot group. Their flow is reduced to quite a bit less. So That math is pretty f-d up. I seriously doubt even in the 824 or protected group we ever see 360/year anyway. Not even close this year with recalls.
They aren't in the 824 or protected pilot group. Their flow is reduced to quite a bit less. So That math is pretty f-d up. I seriously doubt even in the 824 or protected group we ever see 360/year anyway. Not even close this year with recalls.
Unfortunately they hope to dupe some unsuspecting potential new hire with their blatant lies.
At least used car salesmen are just selling you a lemon. These guys are selling people a lifetime of lemons(lies).
03-11-2016 | 01:17 PM
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03-11-2016 | 01:44 PM
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Whenever I see cr700 posting here, I have to go grab my popcorn before viewing. Thanks for giving me plenty to laugh about. Here is an idea. Why don't you actually get upgrades and flow down to 2.5/5.5 and then come back here. Until then, I don't really care about your "projections."
You may not care about "projections" but if you're a new hire looking for where to begin your career, you probably should.
That being said, while we certainly have our share of problems over here, if I were young and didn't mind slugging it out at the regionals for a few years...I would choose envoy. Top knotch training by VERY experienced and knowledgable pilots, a financially healthy company, and a path to the largest airline in the world...seems like a no-brainer to me. I came here nearly a decade ago for the first two reasons and am sure glad I stayed around for the third.
03-11-2016 | 02:15 PM
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Razor sharp observation and intuition ?
Is it no wonder so many chumps are flying airliners these days ?
They think they have it all figured out right up until the instant they take a two-by-four between the eyes and then cry to the heavens of why they never saw it coming. You'll go far.
03-11-2016 | 02:42 PM
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Since when do new hires flow at a rate of 360/year?
They aren't in the 824 or protected pilot group. Their flow is reduced to quite a bit less. So That math is pretty f-d up. I seriously doubt even in the 824 or protected group we ever see 360/year anyway. Not even close this year with recalls.
They aren't in the 824 or protected pilot group. Their flow is reduced to quite a bit less. So That math is pretty f-d up. I seriously doubt even in the 824 or protected group we ever see 360/year anyway. Not even close this year with recalls.
03-11-2016 | 06:58 PM
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Both of these video's presenters state half of future AA pilots will come from their wholly-owned carriers (plural), whereas Envoy's ad says Envoy pilots alone will not only capture half the slots, but more critically half of EVERY new-hire class. Those two claims are significantly different. The only error I see in representation in these videos is the statement that the Envoy fleet is "growing" leading to fast upgrades. It's my understanding that Envoy management is representing a "stable" fleet that they don't expect to shrink, at least in the near future, so there does appear to be some creative representation in that respect as upgrades there will most likely remain tepid because it's unlikely Envoy will be able to bring enough pilots in over the next year or two to remain its current size.
All they said (AA Pilots, one USAir & one AA), classes are 50% flow from envoy, CFI Cadet Program from Envoy. Go to envoyair.com...
No mention of PSA and PDT, only once they mentioned (nothing relevant). PDT and PSA booth where nowhere close AA. Envoy was by the side of AA.
Seems to me the AAG is putting a lot
of effort to replace the flow guys and hiring as much as they can. Talked to the recruiters and they told me this event has the best turn over in a long time.
Meanwhile RAH, Commuteair and Silver booth where empty. Endevour had some guys around. PSA and PDT way back out of sight with some people around.
03-12-2016 | 07:42 AM
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I figured the axe grinder would make an appearance here. For those who aren't familiar, eaglefly doesn't even work here! So, if you want to take advice from someone who claims to know all of the internal workings of Envoy that doesn't even work at the company. Well, I'll let you be the judge of his foolish statement above.
Yeah? And you are management. So what's the difference? I still don't trust you nor any of your office buddies. How about you stop violating our contract first, then we can MAYBE start believing you.
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