What are you talking about? American Eagle had been under a 16 year contract which was one of the best in the regional industry until AA filed bankruptcy and that went away. I don't know how far back you are even talking about..

We flew solely for AA and had nothing to do with Comair and Delta.. That was Mesa, RAH, and Gojet doing all that undercutting.

How many of PSA's aircraft were transferred away and scheduled to be parked right before their YES vote in 2013? Our fleet was decimated after our NO votes and because of PSA's YES vote. If we continued to vote NO we would be furloughing right now due to PSA caving. There is a big difference between the two groups votes.

 

And had PSA voted no, they would be gone. So it's okay for you to vote to save your job but no one else? Got it.

 

Oh really? Did they "actually" start transferring PSA's planes to somebody else or park them before the vote? Oh yeah.. It was Just another baseless management threat tactic to get the weak group to cave and fuel the whipsaw.

If everyone stood their ground managements whipsaw game would have been dead in its tracks. We'd all be better off.

 

This Tell me you haven't been in the industry long. Comair grew on the backs of cheap labor. You had to pay for your training to fly there. Their rates sucked and so did there contract. They grew and grew and then grew balls and striked. Got the best deal. Then what???? What they did happened to them. Others grew on cheaper labor. Wash and repeat.
Delta ended that game. Not so long ago Eagle signed a 16 year deal for growth. They grew also and American pulled the plug on them also. Shrinking them and a good spanking.
To sit here and blame other regionals for screwing up the industry is sad and funny at the same time. Kinda like getting a blow job from a clown.
You blame PSA But you got ex comair people working there. Lol and people lined up for quick upgrades.
It is what it is!!! Upgrade get your pic time and move on. Don't waste to much energy saying your regional is better then mine. Cause tomorrow chances are it might not be.

 

Justify it however you want. The whipsaw started long before 400 pilot PSA and will continue until you can figure out how to keep people from losing pay and seniority between carrier moves. I'm certainly not trusting my financial stability or my families well being to some other pilot groups "good intentions."

 

This whole argument is stupid. All the regionals undercut the majors if it comes down to it.

The point is things were finally in a place to turn around for regionals, record profits, our leverage trending upwards.. And PSA completely screwed that momentum.

 

I apologize if my ranting made it seem like I was leaning on PSA being an amazing place. It sucks like all the others. I am in complete agreement with you. No company at this level is any better than another. I was just trying to point out the hypocrisy when people come on here vilifying PSA (or any carrier) for not voting in a way that would benefit them and their employer. We are all contract labor to be throw aside for the next cheapest supplier.

 

How so??? When Parker offered the PSA the first 900's the PSA MEC's said hell no to those rates. What did Parker do??? He sent those 900's to MESA who grabbed them with Arms wide Open! Then it came time to be offered them again and Parker let it be known they'd send more right to Mesa or maybe get Piedmont into the game. Another ALPA carrier! Piedmont held the line for a long time and what did it get us. Went from a fleet just over 100 planes down to 34.

Where was ALPA??? You want to point fingers I'd place much of it on ALPA National. ALPA allows these games to played out because there number one concern is their big whales.

 

So you really think a major carrier would let any regional dictate to them? Please. Why do you think there's multiple wholly owned regionals? The game will continue, just in house. Contract labor is easily replaced.

 

No apology needed. I totally understand I've just seen the game played to long and it's refreshing to know I won't be part of it soon.