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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox (Post 2132613)

I know they're not getting many out of each batch, but no guarantees that it will remain consistent.

Source? I've heard no numbers yet but it was rumored to be 5-10 per class. I believe that yes, it will be the LUS bases due to the AA furloughs being required to go back to AA equipment.

Source on recalls is AA and ALPA. Source on flow over the summer is ALPA.

Thanks. I wonder why nothing official has been released on the matter.

New Envoy Information

Fear of mass exodus?

Come to think of it, I believe most have become numb from the bad news airline.

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Originally Posted by cr700 (Post 2132333)

It is beyond stupidity as to why you keep posting when you don't even work here. I'm curious as to how you even got an ATP with the mental deficiencies you exhibit.

Guess what? We are still flowing. The flow is working as intended. Get over it!

We are so glad to have you back. You gave us loads of good information here as to how this flow is going to continue to work.

A Ponzi or Pyramid scheme requires unsuspecting saps that will provide money or a service to keep the facade going. The service is bodies that will fly as FO's and the facade is the flow.

The problem is, there very, very few pilots out there to keep the facade going for Envoy and thus the reason that the flow will collapse on itself inside of 12 months. When I say collapse, I mean that the numbers going over will be cut sharply. Envoy may let 8 or 10 a month go only if they can staff what they need to fly.

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Originally Posted by cr700 (Post 2132333)

If you call one new hire last class working then yes, like a charm.

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Originally Posted by ag386 (Post 2132961)

There you go again, throwing out numbers like you actually know what you're talking about.

I'm far from a defender of envoy management. In fact, I think they're kids who don't know *** they're doing. But one thing I'll never do is spew my opinion as fact, like you do.

Btw, you never answered my question about your obsession with envoy either! Rumor is that you got "asked to resign" for busting one too many check rides?! Is this true?

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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear (Post 2132980)

If you call one new hire last class working then yes, like a charm.

How many in the next class?

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Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 2133029)

How many in the next class?

Rumor is around 13-15 with 12 E-175 slots available.

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Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 2133078)

Rumor is around 13-15 with 12 E-175 slots available.

This is correct..I just wanted the guy to have to answer. New hires are coming in proportion-roughly-to how many E175 slots are available. Sim time is saturated right now, and it's something that we are attempting to sort out.

Once we do, we will be able to offer more E175s to new hires and for upgrades. Plus, with an increased training capacity the +90 options come into play..with a few other variables to work out.

They've already said they're not farming out sim time. How are they going to fix capacity with finite sim availability?