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Originally Posted by Coneydog
(Post 2029471)
I didn't think he was *****ing. He was just stating what we all knew was the truth.
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Originally Posted by Machwon
(Post 2029476)
"If you guys really want to know, the most junior Capt on our list is an October 2007 hire. Who hasn't even started upgrade training yet! "
I'm Oct Doh and am a couple weeks into long term. Also most Jr Capt is the last guy hired in NOV 07. Next vacancy will take it into 08 easily. Also the 2.5/6 is for guys coming on property now not when you were hired. |
Originally Posted by emb145
(Post 2029477)
Here they come. The Envoy police. Going after one of their own no less who posts what's really going on behind the doors at Envoy. Eaglefly is right. You guys are just a pack of goons.
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Originally Posted by N927EV
(Post 2029466)
It's simple, really. Just quit. Everyone is hiring. Save us your *****ing.
Today's Envoy FACTS. Jr Capt NOV07 Hire - 8 year 1 month upgrade Jr Flow AUG99 Hire - 16 year 4 month flow |
This thread is full of exaggerations and b****ing. Quit or have your owner take you out behind the barn and put you out of your misery.
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Originally Posted by FlameNSky
(Post 2029470)
There are plenty of other regionals advertising less than a 2.5 yr upgrade. If you are truly so unhappy and think that PIC will be your magic ticket, why don't you make the lateral move to PSA, Go Jet or Mesa? I am sure that either of these companies could have you in class within a month.
Unless I see some drastic change that would be just cause for a lateral, I'm trying to move UP. As in all the places I've posted. If I don't get something it won't be from lack of effort. I'm pulling everything out and going for broke RIGHT NOW because I can't continue this BS reserve lifestyle. I'm just saying that if any Envoy pilot out there REALLY believes this 2.5/6 crap that management is pushing, then they need to have their head examined and should really consider another profession. If they are that dense, they don't need to be near the controls of a passenger airliner. |
He needs a hug.....
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Originally Posted by Justrun
(Post 2029487)
This thread is full of exaggerations and b****ing. Quit or have your owner take you out behind the barn and put you out of your misery.
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Originally Posted by ag386
(Post 2029488)
I've thought it through and I'm not going to do it. I wouldn't lose that much money but these regionals are just way too unstable. I move to PSA, if they can't hire enough, then I'm stuck there as an FO just like here at Envoy.
Unless I see some drastic change that would be just cause for a lateral, I'm trying to move UP. As in all the places I've posted. If I don't get something it won't be from lack of effort. I'm pulling everything out and going for broke RIGHT NOW because I can't continue this BS reserve lifestyle. I'm just saying that if any Envoy pilot out there REALLY believes this 2.5/6 crap that management is pushing, then they need to have their head examined and should really consider another profession. If they are that dense, they don't need to be near the controls of a passenger airliner. |
Originally Posted by ag386
(Post 2029488)
I've thought it through and I'm not going to do it. I wouldn't lose that much money but these regionals are just way too unstable. I move to PSA, if they can't hire enough, then I'm stuck there as an FO just like here at Envoy.
Unless I see some drastic change that would be just cause for a lateral, I'm trying to move UP. As in all the places I've posted. If I don't get something it won't be from lack of effort. I'm pulling everything out and going for broke RIGHT NOW because I can't continue this BS reserve lifestyle. I'm just saying that if any Envoy pilot out there REALLY believes this 2.5/6 crap that management is pushing, then they need to have their head examined and should really consider another profession. If they are that dense, they don't need to be near the controls of a passenger airliner. "With very reasonable assumptions, a new hire today is currently projected to upgrade to Captain in two and a half years – and flow to American approximately six years from hire." I think your reading comprehension needs to be examined. A...new...hire...TODAY...is...currently...projecte d... Not someone hired 3 years ago. |
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