An unsubstantiated claim. Besides, even if it was, they'd have to run twice that many through to include new-hires (that almost certainly are not likely to exist every month in the future). That's perhaps 1500 long-term training events over that 18 months and the bubble alone would likely cripple Envoy to mimic where RAH is now. If what is you say is true, then management should have no trouble confirming their intentions to match your claim of their capabilites.

All I hear on that is silence, exept for 205 upgrades next year. Is it me, or have the jackals called in reinforcements from the woods ?

Sure seems like it. :cool:

Overlooked as that was never part of my assertions. I'm not required to validate every other members posts, but I do realize it makes an attractive diversion when you've run out of rocks.

So we're clear, how exactly would management "confirm their intentions"?

Yep...and I've flown with the May 2013 person in question. He is a Mormon guy out of Utah and his personality in real life doesn't match with this unhinged one we see here.

This ag386 character most likely does NOT work at Envoy and created his profile with the specific intention to carpet bomb. My guess it's one of the usual anti-Envoy posters with an alter ego. Maybe a certain current Spirit pilot. Or one of the PSA funny guys.

Next time he should leave out specific-false-details if he wants to pretend to be somebody else.

Oops!!

Shhh, don't get in their way of misrepresenting or cherry picking "Facts". Heaven knows that real facts are limited and have been discussed ad nasueam here, yet some people find new ways to restate them without pertinent information as hyperbole. Oh, No! IF you were hired in 2005 you'll never see 2.5 and 6! 2.5 and 6 is a lie! Don't look behind the curtain! Nevermind that it's based on a person getting hired today!

Nothing more than trolls.

Haha very true, and said pilot has had 8 pm starts day 1 all December, with a 1 pm finish on one of their last days and not used rap 1 on their next last day, I mean life is rough. I'm on reserve as 2013 hire too and its by choice, granted I live in base. But it is night and day difference between now and a year - 2 years ago when we were understaffed and being used every day and getting the triple turn backs because there were no reserves left for the next 2 days.

Actually, you commonly represented yourself as a mediator of sorts by only looking at the facts.

You would often point out half truths and misrepresentation by some notorious envoy pilots who were in fact stretching the truth.

The fact is that you were more than happy to point those out, but every time someone posted something negative about envoy, you would conveniently not apply the same standard to them. This OP is just another example.

Sorry! I'll go have a snickers, hunger lowers my tolerance to BS. I'm going to get into trouble with our Alien Overlords (All Hail Zoltan!).

An acknowledgement that to meet a 2.5 year upgrade claim for present new-hires as projected, all present F/O's are planned to be in captains school by June 1, 2018 and acknowledgement based on the approximate 205 upgrades planned for 2016, that the remaining F/O's (whatever number of present F/O's minus 205) will be upgraded based on an realistic schedule that they can confidently stand behind that they can achieve not only for the upgrades, but for an equal number of new-hires to support a claim of no contraction.

If they cannot make a coherent argument for that with specifics, it falls into the "heard that before" catagory of unrealized promises, which BTW is a Loooooooog file.

Good luck with that. :rolleyes:

In other words, you want me to act like you think I should and say what you think I should say ?

Sorry...........wrong guy.