Retention Bonuses at Envoy
#151
Yea... I can't help but think that the only winner in this is AAG. I know a lot of people say that they want their wholly owneds to succeed. And I don't doubt that they truly want that. But only if their wholly owneds are cheap. If they aren't cheap, then why not farm the flying out to someone who WILL do it cheaper? There is a reason our pay scales are some of the worst in the industry. And there is a reason AAG would rather give bonuses than fix pay.
#152
Last time I jumpseated on AA, was a TWA CA and FO. To this day they are still treated like unwanted step children!! Sorry, you can keep your flow, AA is one of the last places I would go!
#153
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You should look up how fast retirements are at AA and then figure out how many of the grumpy old guard are going to be around in 5-10 years.
#154
I jumpseat on them all the time. They have a lot of issues with their own contract and don't have much leverage at this point. They basically sold a lot down the drain for "highest pay". Which they don't even currently have. All they really have is scope to lose. I'm not saying that they are going to give up more scope (and god knows I pray they don't), but that could be the ultimate goal of Doug.
#155
The scope train has left the station.
Regionals are going to shrink now. I think we will see the 900's and 170's being the largest airplanes flown by regionals and regional flying will drop from 54% to 40%.
Regionals are going to shrink now. I think we will see the 900's and 170's being the largest airplanes flown by regionals and regional flying will drop from 54% to 40%.
#156
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Retention Bonuses at Envoy
Refine that statement a little: They want their wholly owneds to succeed in being cheap moneymakers for AAG.
As employees we view the path to success and what constitutes that success completely differently than management. Their success has metrics that allow for the minimum employee benefits and pay needed to keep things running, a metric for customer complaints, and profit targets. Employee morale is not on the register unless it directly impacts management's metrics, in our case it's throwing money at FO's so they don't leave.
We view success as good pay/benefits/QOL/career progression and that makes a happy employee who will take good care of the customer and the company. If management sees our "success" as an impediment to their views, well...sucks to be us.
#157
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Incorrect, non commuters get the same hotel provisions. We have quite a few "non commuters" that get hotels to reduce their drive time for an early show or ensure a quite place to sleep before an early AM trip. I even know of a couple of guys that have gotten a hotel and had the family meet them there so the kids could play in the pool.
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