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-   -   Envoy newhires to E-175 (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/envoy-airlines/93937-envoy-newhires-e-175-a.html)

Skyvector 03-15-2016 10:52 AM
Originally Posted by adspilot (Post 2089452)
By pending announcement do you mean AAG exercising its options for more EJets?
No...that's a 2017 thing at the earliest. This is something else.

AdiosMikeFox 03-15-2016 11:00 AM
Movement we have been told to expect.

It isn't happening until it happens.

Saabless 03-15-2016 11:41 AM
Envoy looks like the place to be now. With over 300 flows a year to AA and soon to be rapid movement, I don't see a better regional out there. Things went south there a couple years ago with consessions and loss of aircraft, but now it looks like mainline is counting on them to be their number one feeder.

chrisreedrules 03-15-2016 11:43 AM
I have a feeling you guys are going to get MIA back and more flying returned to you.

PilotJ3 03-15-2016 11:52 AM
Originally Posted by Saabless (Post 2089488)
Envoy looks like the place to be now. With over 300 flows a year to AA and soon to be rapid movement, I don't see a better regional out there. Things went south there a couple years ago with consessions and loss of aircraft, but now it looks like mainline is counting on them to be their number one feeder.
Funny thing is that we used to be the #1 feeder for AA before the merge. Over 90% of the feed was in house. But hey lets break something that it was working great. Now they have lost over 1,400 pilots with their games.

There was no need for any of this to happen.

adspilot 03-15-2016 11:53 AM
Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2089489)
I have a feeling you guys are going to get MIA back and more flying returned to you.
If that happens it will likely be a 175 base as well...

ag386 03-15-2016 12:27 PM
Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox (Post 2089460)
Movement we have been told to expect.

It isn't happening until it happens.
Well now aren't you just a Debbie Downer.

eaglefly 03-15-2016 12:37 PM
Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 2089434)
Due to the amount of movement we are experiencing, new hires alone won't cover the staffing needs. Especially in light of a pending announcement. There will be displacement bids for current FOs to staff the E175 along with new hires.
If new-hires alone won't cover the staffing needs, Envoy shrinks.

eaglefly 03-15-2016 12:40 PM
Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 2089438)
Also lower reserve times. The guys in the 145 and CRJ now won't bail because they will be getting NH below them. Is a snowball effect...
They won't bail anyway (at least laterally). A recent poll proved that barring a call from another legacy besides AA (flow) or LCC, they're in too deep there.

eaglefly 03-15-2016 12:50 PM
Originally Posted by Saabless (Post 2089488)
Envoy looks like the place to be now. With over 300 flows a year to AA and soon to be rapid movement, I don't see a better regional out there. Things went south there a couple years ago with consessions and loss of aircraft, but now it looks like mainline is counting on them to be their number one feeder.
If only there were pilots out there to feed such a plan. It will require well over 400 pilots/year and not just this or next year, but 6 or more for poor F/O Bucket to beam glowingly in AA new-hire Indoc.

The present feeble new-hire numbers won't feed that engine and thus Envoy breaks down and coasts to the shoulder awaiting a tow truck, unless Envoy's drivers can successfully siphon someone else's gas (poaching) or a merger/acquisition occurs.


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