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buddies8 05-20-2016 06:06 PM

you do not need a e175 rating to get more money being there is none or to get to aa faster, so why is sam and short dicky going to training?

management here just wants aag to know that they can be more of *** holes than anyone else.

DilsonWic 05-20-2016 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by thefoxsays (Post 2132573)
Well when you're trying to say an FO makes the same as a captain.

Don't be so obtuse.

That's acute.

Exupery 05-21-2016 11:47 AM

Lot's of management bashing, and to someone new to the industry it seems justified, but yet to make sense to me is what, exactly, the MEC brings to the party. Honest question: What does it add? Seems there's lots of 'negotiating' with management but to read these posts it sounds like the MEC bends over on every issue.

Realtalk 05-21-2016 12:23 PM

Skyvector...care to comment?

FlameNSky 05-21-2016 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by shfo (Post 2132595)
... By the way my last year as an FO I made 45,200...

You're not doing it right. Properly bid transitions are worth 8 - 10 hours of pay alone. I would consistently make 95 - 105 hours of pay a month for 80-90 of work, 14-15 days off a month. Admittedly, that was pre117.

HobGoblin 05-21-2016 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by FlameNSky (Post 2133165)
You're not doing it right. Properly bid transitions are worth 8 - 10 hours of pay alone. I would consistently make 95 - 105 hours of pay a month for 80-90 of work, 14-15 days off a month. Admittedly, that was pre117.

I'm on pace for 60k not including the 10k bonus as an FO on 5th year pay

Pedro4President 05-21-2016 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Exupery (Post 2133142)
Lot's of management bashing, and to someone new to the industry it seems justified, but yet to make sense to me is what, exactly, the MEC brings to the party. Honest question: What does it add? Seems there's lots of 'negotiating' with management but to read these posts it sounds like the MEC bends over on every issue.

Well some would say our current MEC has become to cozy with management.

Smutter 05-21-2016 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2133272)
Well some would say our current MEC has become to cozy with management.

Some? We all should be. Sam sit under Dics desk and unzipped on command

Eaglepilot84 05-21-2016 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Smutter (Post 2133274)
Some? We all should be. Sam sit under Dics desk and unzipped on command

Yes. Current MEC is way too cozy. The good part is that there are some in the MEC who are resisting.

E175 Driver 05-21-2016 06:38 PM

How does this impact the flow?


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