Some do incur the same amount of debt.

Yes we do less schook, but how many spent years flight instructing, banner towing, flying checks etc, just to get their first commercial flying job? Sounds like an internship to me kinda of like residency......

Yes this job isn't brain surgery, but we have more lives at risk in a day than most doctors do in a month. Remember Cologan? One mistake and our job, our lives are done. A doctor makes a mistake he fills out some insurance form and goes back to work the next day.

Not just comparing, but we should be compensated for what we have done to get here, and what our job entitles us to do. The longer we hold ourselves short of our true worth the longer management won't change their thinking. Don't sell your profession short. You are a professional so demand to be paid like one.

 

I agree, except that it's obvious the market cannot bear higher pay. Flying for many is an elastic demand.

 

That's false. Demand for domestic lift had never been higher and the market has no idea what it can bear but in the next 5 yeasts it's going to be tested.

Further global supply of pilots it's shorter than the us. Asia pacific Airlines are paying better. Middle East Airlines are paying way better.

 

So long as the regional pilots keep showing up for work and keep falling over each other for the "quick upgrade" or SJS the company leadership will continue to do the least it possibly can for the employee groups. As we've seen, only when they desperately need pilots do they start throwing out bonuses or raising pay, and not a second sooner than necessary. And note - those bonuses are temporary. As soon as they find they don't need them or find a way around them the extra cash is gone. That could happen a lot of ways, and one of them is consolidation.

 

If costs and thus prices increase, there will be less demand because people will fly less. Econ 101.

 

The Flight Crew making an extra $40/hour isn't going to make tickets prices skyrocket.

 

Exactly the average cost of the flight crew on a fifty passenger Jr. Is about 150 to 200 dollars. Fuel and maintenance and lease agreements are the higher cost.

The goal of the regional labor force is to keep many pilots away from mainline until they are in their 40s, therefore not collecting top pay for many years.

The goal of us wholly owned pilots should be to unite all three pilot groups under one common association and push the boundaries of the railway labor act. Unfortunately three separate unions are not capable of uniting the three pilot groups and what do we do right now... Oh those psa pilots suck... Those eaglevoy guys suck.. Those piedmont guys.. well they smell. No they really stink it's terrible.

We have to stop blaming the other group for the crap show we are in and which group did what first. We need to unite the groups.

 

The only way I could agree on this is if AAG do a list by Company Seniority. And people will flow according to their company seniority, not by their WO seniority.

 

I know many at PSA and PDT wouldn't be down for this, but I think a unified WO union would be worth this sacrifice. I'm probably one of the few who would say that though.

 

Which is why a merge is far from happening, at least at this point. It would be another seniority fight that AA doesn't want. I would be for relative seniority only, so they may as well absorb us first. Otherwise let it burn to the ground.