Envoy union boss not happy with bonuses:
#41
I don't sell myself short in the least bit. I'm just NOT delusional. In this industry, pilots have had their collective balls cut off. We play checkers while management and the steering winds of the industry are playing chess. THAT is why we will never be paid what we are worth. Well, that and the fact that automation is making some incredible leaps and bounds and is already overcoming high hurtles. 30% of jobs in this country will be gone to automation in 20 years of not less. In the grand scheme of things (over the course of centuries of innovation), we are living in the twilight of "manned jobs". And our industry will not be immune. I'm not going to continue derailing the thread any further, but suffice it to say that equating our job with that of a surgeons is over-simplistic at best and very inconsiderate of reality.
#42
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 857
I don't sell myself short in the least bit. I'm just NOT delusional. In this industry, pilots have had their collective balls cut off. We play checkers while management and the steering winds of the industry are playing chess. THAT is why we will never be paid what we are worth. Well, that and the fact that automation is making some incredible leaps and bounds and is already overcoming high hurtles. 30% of jobs in this country will be gone to automation in 20 years of not less. In the grand scheme of things (over the course of centuries of innovation), we are living in the twilight of "manned jobs". And our industry will not be immune. I'm not going to continue derailing the thread any further, but suffice it to say that equating our job with that of a surgeons is over-simplistic at best and very inconsiderate of reality.
#43
I tend to reckon that pilots equally share a vast responsibility of staying, current, behaving legally and morally and maintaining a high level of knowledge equal to that of medical professions. It is a sickening and unfortunate tragedy that we pilots are compensated so woefully.
#44
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 4,933
That's false. Demand for domestic lift had never been higher and the market has no idea what it can bear but in the next 5 yeasts it's going to be tested.
Further global supply of pilots it's shorter than the us. Asia pacific Airlines are paying better. Middle East Airlines are paying way better.
Further global supply of pilots it's shorter than the us. Asia pacific Airlines are paying better. Middle East Airlines are paying way better.
#45
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: Feito no Brasil, CA
Posts: 833
I tend to reckon that pilots equally share a vast responsibility of staying, current, behaving legally and morally and maintaining a high level of knowledge equal to that of medical professions. It is a sickening and unfortunate tragedy that we pilots are compensated so woefully.
One might be able to draw comparisons between how many people die at the hands of a pilot vs how many people die due to medical mistakes every year, then balance that against how those mistakes are handled.
#46
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 963
You regional guys need more pay. I know because I was one for ten years. Today I had a deadhead on my old regional and it hit me that my deadheading captain was making more at that moment asleep in an exit row seat than the entire crew of that RJ. Almost double, actually. The market will bear it. Demand is there. The shortage is real. Every flight is full. Capacity is under control. The airlines are making record profits.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post