Envoy union boss not happy with bonuses:
06-17-2016, 10:20 AM
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Envoy union boss not happy with bonuses:
06-17-2016, 10:47 AM
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It's not just the bonuses. It's the pay after the bonus runs out and how crappy the company treats people while they're here.
06-17-2016, 10:54 AM
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None of the AAG WO union leadership or line pilots are happy. AAG insists on keeping its head so far up its own arse it is almost incredible.
For starters, who in the hell is the extra $5,000 going to attract that didn't/wouldn't of already come for the $10,000? Second of all, by the time they finally figure this out, time will be running out for attracting new hires.
What is needed is actual hard pay increases and contractual improvements. Raise first year FO pay to $35 /hour and top it out at $45 /hour. 100% deadhead, min day with no carve-outs, and 200% open time pay would be a good start. And did I mention commutable high-credit lines?
For starters, who in the hell is the extra $5,000 going to attract that didn't/wouldn't of already come for the $10,000? Second of all, by the time they finally figure this out, time will be running out for attracting new hires.
What is needed is actual hard pay increases and contractual improvements. Raise first year FO pay to $35 /hour and top it out at $45 /hour. 100% deadhead, min day with no carve-outs, and 200% open time pay would be a good start. And did I mention commutable high-credit lines?
06-17-2016, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
None of the AAG WO union leadership or line pilots are happy. AAG insists on keeping its head so far up its own arse it is almost incredible.
For starters, who in the hell is the extra $5,000 going to attract that didn't/wouldn't of already come for the $10,000? Second of all, by the time they finally figure this out, time will be running out for attracting new hires.
What is needed is actual hard pay increases and contractual improvements. Raise first year FO pay to $35 /hour and top it out at $45 /hour. 100% deadhead, min day with no carve-outs, and 200% open time pay would be a good start. And did I mention commutable high-credit lines?
For starters, who in the hell is the extra $5,000 going to attract that didn't/wouldn't of already come for the $10,000? Second of all, by the time they finally figure this out, time will be running out for attracting new hires.
What is needed is actual hard pay increases and contractual improvements. Raise first year FO pay to $35 /hour and top it out at $45 /hour. 100% deadhead, min day with no carve-outs, and 200% open time pay would be a good start. And did I mention commutable high-credit lines?
It should be
$40
$42
$45
$50
If you made it to yr 4, then you should be compensated more since they felt short of the 2.5/3yr upgrade.
06-17-2016, 11:22 AM
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I'd lean more towards:
$60
$62
$65
$70
$60
$62
$65
$70
Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Cutting it short...
It should be
$40
$42
$45
$50
If you made it to yr 4, then you should be compensated more since they felt short of the 2.5/3yr upgrade.
It should be
$40
$42
$45
$50
If you made it to yr 4, then you should be compensated more since they felt short of the 2.5/3yr upgrade.
06-17-2016, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
I'd lean more towards:
$60
$62
$65
$70
$60
$62
$65
$70
How much would a mainline pilot get paid to fly the same airplane? The numbers should at least be much closer to that..
06-17-2016, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
THANK YOU. How much do lawyers and doctors get paid after years of expensive training and experience? How many lives are in their hands every day???
How much would a mainline pilot get paid to fly the same airplane? The numbers should at least be much closer to that..
How much would a mainline pilot get paid to fly the same airplane? The numbers should at least be much closer to that..
06-17-2016, 11:31 AM
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I have over 2500 hours that I can attribute to 135/121 time. From what I understand on the APC profile of Envoy, I have a chance to be hired at Envoy with a 25k bonus?
06-17-2016, 11:31 AM
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And honestly, a lot of lawyers only make about as much as a 5 or 6 year regional CA. And doctors as much as a senior mainline FO. Not the best of comparisons if you ask me.
06-17-2016, 11:50 AM
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2 year commitment on the bonus . If you leave prior you owe them 15k
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