Picking a plane for Envoy
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Thread refresh....can anyone explain why the 145 is "better" ? Assume the applicant lives in Dallas and does not wish to move or commute. Applicant will be age 50 at time of hire.
why would one pay more than another, for a 1st year new hire ? Which one would be quicker to Captain ?
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why would one pay more than another, for a 1st year new hire ? Which one would be quicker to Captain ?
Thank you
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Thread refresh....can anyone explain why the 145 is "better" ? Assume the applicant lives in Dallas and does not wish to move or commute. Applicant will be age 50 at time of hire.
why would one pay more than another, for a 1st year new hire ? Which one would be quicker to Captain ?
Thank you
why would one pay more than another, for a 1st year new hire ? Which one would be quicker to Captain ?
Thank you
Another thing to consider is how well you learn new things. The 175 has a few more "bells and whistles" to manage...more depth to the FMS, autothrust, VNAV, etc. These things sound nice to have, but a pilot must learn to effectively manage them. Pilots have failed transition or new hire training in the 175 due to an inability to grasp the operation of the aircraft or programming of its functions within the allotted training time. Know thyself...and don't take on more than you can chew. The 145 is a bit more forgiving. Factor in your flight experience to this point to help with the decision-making.
One important pro about the 175 is having actual coffee pots.
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Thread refresh....can anyone explain why the 145 is "better" ? Assume the applicant lives in Dallas and does not wish to move or commute. Applicant will be age 50 at time of hire.
why would one pay more than another, for a 1st year new hire ? Which one would be quicker to Captain ?
Thank you
why would one pay more than another, for a 1st year new hire ? Which one would be quicker to Captain ?
Thank you
2. Both, captain upgrade is base on seniority only. When you can hold the upgrade no matter the jet you will be awarded it. Junior plane right now is the CrJ, then 145, then 175..
More movement right now on the 145.
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The pay scale is the same for FOs regardless of equipment. The company incentivized the 145 and CRJ with an additional $5k bonus due to the SJS happening with the 175...sort of like a consolation prize. Neither is technically "quicker" to captain since you can upgrade into an aircraft you are not currently flying. Impossible to predict what will be junior in 2.5-3 years. Predicting things in the airlines involves too many variables beyond one's control.
Another thing to consider is how well you learn new things. The 175 has a few more "bells and whistles" to manage...more depth to the FMS, autothrust, VNAV, etc. These things sound nice to have, but a pilot must learn to effectively manage them. Pilots have failed transition or new hire training in the 175 due to an inability to grasp the operation of the aircraft or programming of its functions within the allotted training time. Know thyself...and don't take on more than you can chew. The 145 is a bit more forgiving. Factor in your flight experience to this point to help with the decision-making.
One important pro about the 175 is having actual coffee pots.
Another thing to consider is how well you learn new things. The 175 has a few more "bells and whistles" to manage...more depth to the FMS, autothrust, VNAV, etc. These things sound nice to have, but a pilot must learn to effectively manage them. Pilots have failed transition or new hire training in the 175 due to an inability to grasp the operation of the aircraft or programming of its functions within the allotted training time. Know thyself...and don't take on more than you can chew. The 145 is a bit more forgiving. Factor in your flight experience to this point to help with the decision-making.
One important pro about the 175 is having actual coffee pots.
The biggest thing to remember in training is these three words: Cooperate And Graduate. Don't be a hero and attempt to learn everything about the airplane because that's impossible to do in such a short timeframe. Just do what they tell you, pass the ride, and you can learn all you want and play with the FMS out on the line on a 4 hour trip to YYC.
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There are four memory items on the 145, and much less automation and sophistication than the 175. I went from flight instructing to the 145 and found it to be a fun plane to learn.
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