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04-26-2017 | 03:51 AM

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There are four memory items on the 145, and much less automation and sophistication than the 175. I went from flight instructing to the 145 and found it to be a fun plane to learn.

Thats the reason why they call it the beginners jet!

04-26-2017 | 05:15 AM

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Systems and flying are the easy part of the job. Granted, knowbody likes being tested in training. The difficult part is applying the knowledge out on the line. Like a previous poster said, "Cooperate and graduate," and THIS will give you a good foundation for learning how to operate on "the line." An airplane is an airplane. You won't be building them. Red is bad, green is good. 175 or 145 both are excellent designs that are forgiving and created for the 250 hour pilot wonders of years past.

04-26-2017 | 06:31 AM

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Thats the reason why they call it the beginners jet!

At least the 145 pilots can fly stabilized approaches.

04-26-2017 | 08:32 AM

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I was always under the impression that the 175 is easier to learn and has less memory item. besides the approach modes how is it more difficult?

It's not. If you have played video games in your life you should be good. Some older guys can't get the flying the fms part.

04-26-2017 | 09:36 AM

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Can anyone comment on realistic 1st and 2nd year monthly take home pay. I know it obviously varies person to person, but perhaps a general range. Also, what are the chances of ORD out of training? Thanks

04-26-2017 | 11:33 AM

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I was always under the impression that the 175 is easier to learn and has less memory item. besides the approach modes how is it more difficult?

The 175 is quite a bit more complicated to learn then the 145. Three people in my systems class needed additional training during sims due to its complexity. Having studied with these three, the need for additional training was not caused by poor study habits. I personally worked with all of them regarding the airplane. This was their first jet and first auto throttle vnav capable airplane.
It just proved to be a lot for them. The program is very good but it's designed and written with the assumption that people already have some turbine experience and are used to flying the downwind of an approach at 250 kts. You add the speed of the airplane and the complexity of its automation and it's more then I think a new hire with no turbine time should be subject to.

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04-26-2017 | 11:58 AM

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It just proved to be a lot for them. The program is very good but it's designed and written with the assumption that people already have some turbine experience and are used to flying the downwind of an approach at 250 kts. You add the speed of the airplane and the complexity of its automation and it's more then I think a new hire with no turbine time should be subject to.

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So you saying having prior jet time? What about experience flying a B1900 single pilot and flying your approaches close to 250 kts till 5 mile final? How would that experience fair in 175 training?

04-26-2017 | 12:33 PM

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So you saying having prior jet time? What about experience flying a B1900 single pilot and flying your approaches close to 250 kts till 5 mile final? How would that experience fair in 175 training?

1000 times better off. Even with my turbo prop and jet experience there are still times I am saying what is it doing now. The difference between you & I and those guys in my class is, we have the instincts and experience to back out the automation and fix it using basic modes. Those guys would just keep pushing buttons hoping for the best.

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