You are wrong this time around.

yeaaa yeaaa yeaaaa believe it when I see it as ive been saying for 15+ years! let me guess some hotshot who signed his NDA is running his mouth?!! because thats the only way something will get leaked... someone in the know who signed a NDA is running their mouths! If i had $1 for everytime CAL and now UAL was going to buy Xjt id really be worth $1M

Sounds like you’ve signed an NDA...care to share?

If this conjecture doesn't include either a flow and/or massive pay increases then we are done. May as well close the doors. Because losing 50-80 a month and hiring 7 is not sustainable.

Not entirely correct. Mesaba and Compass had flows until their last day as DAL WOs back in 2010. When sold, compass kept flow rights for pilots on property before date of sale, Mesaba did not. Some from Mesaba did flow under other circumstances.

Point is, Comair and ASA were WOs for a long time, and got diddly squat.

The Comair strike screwed that up for them, and I get that.... But ASA sure didn't deserve to be Comair'd.

Who Comair’d ASA though?

Some would argue ASA did.......

Dirk, except we're not losing 50-80 a month anymore. The attrition has slowed down drastically.

701EV

PH, I'm curious who at ASA would argue we did it to ourselves. We did not cost Detal $195 million like Comair did because of the strike.

701EV

What are the exact attrition numbers?

May crj 51

How many on the list now? (CRJ) numbers go down but % is probably the same..?

Raw numbers have decreased but percentage is probably about the same. If the “announcement” this week is a dud probably see it pick up, then taper off in August as pilots stick around for the October bonus payout.

I heard a lot of the attrition nowadays is people falling off the 6 month LOA. They haven’t been here in a while anyways.

Phantom was just trolling.

ASA did not deserve this in any manner

Just got word from a friend that Frontier is calling all ASA/Expressjet guys to apply. Apparently the ones who did go made a good impression for this group. Looks like Frontier is growing.

I go off how many are awarded lines/reserve each month. Probably a more accurate assessment of how many pilots we have.
For June, this came out to 428 CRJ pilots between ATL and DFW. Some of those pilots are gone, so I'm going to guess between 390-410 pilots now not including management and instructors.

3 words: Failure To Negotiate.

PH doesn't troll.

Or, perhaps: Failure to Compromise or Failure to Agree. I am not sure that those in position to negotiate would have made any other decisions had they known the eventual outcome.

I agree. Their primary interest was getting as much as they could for themselves then bailing.

By not negotiating at all or walking out of negotiation repeatedly at the request of (.............), they allowed the process to stall, damning us all. We felt it first on the ERJ side. But, it ultimately nailed the CRJ side like a pick axe in the back. For this, I will never forget... much as I do with Hanoi Jane and Vietnam. There was too much energy being applied to telling us how we needed to play ball, and not enough left to notice how the ball was never allowed to be in play by your own side in the first place. Well done...

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Ya how about it

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