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08-17-2018, 06:46 AM
#45
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Originally Posted by Approach1260
PSA had an offer like this back in the day, and they wound up with one of the worst contracts in the industry to go with their shiny new Jets.
08-17-2018, 07:14 AM
#46
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
I'm not so sure it will be crap. Fifty CRJ pilots were hired away by Kalitta alone this month. They are coming back next month to get another 50. I think that may have been a wake-up call for management and UAL, especially when our MEC chairman announced he was taking a slot. He was very positive about a future here and he was the reason many of us stayed as long as we have, so his announcement that he was leaving was pretty much an "every man for himself" announcement.
Pilots are needed to fly these aircraft while still fulfilling the ERJ/CRJ contracts and this is not 2012 when Comair went under and the pilots were left to take any flying job they could find if they were lucky enough to find a flying job. I've been saying for several months that UAL needed to quit dilly-dallying around or they would probably find ERJ's with UAL colors parked all over the country.
Or maybe it's wishful thinking on my part.
Pilots are needed to fly these aircraft while still fulfilling the ERJ/CRJ contracts and this is not 2012 when Comair went under and the pilots were left to take any flying job they could find if they were lucky enough to find a flying job. I've been saying for several months that UAL needed to quit dilly-dallying around or they would probably find ERJ's with UAL colors parked all over the country.
Or maybe it's wishful thinking on my part.
08-17-2018, 07:30 AM
#48
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
The current CRJ MEC chairman is not that type. Frankly, if we had this guy in the position years ago we might have avoided the TM debacle. His departure will leave a deep void.
I left back before the TM debacle. Could you hit the cliff notes version of what happened.
Ol DN seemed like a good guy-before he held that job. I’m more familiar with the crap he pulled.
08-17-2018, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jcountry
I left back before the TM debacle. Could you hit the cliff notes version of what happened.
Ol DN seemed like a good guy-before he held that job. I’m more familiar with the crap he pulled.
Ol DN seemed like a good guy-before he held that job. I’m more familiar with the crap he pulled.
TM was from the training department.
As MEC chairman he was receiving full-time ALPA pay.
He did not work well with the LXJT side or management.
Some of us started to have questions about his pay and asked why he was not complying with our MEC bylaws, ALPA national bylaws and federal labor by reporting his pay. We were pretty much told to pack sand and mind our own business- his salary was his personal business.
A few LEC reps finally went to ALPA national in an attempt to find out how much TM was making. To ALPA national's chagrin, they realized our MEC was not reporting full-time leadership pay to national as required. But based upon the amount of dues TM was paying, they were able to postulate that he was making at least $240K/year, probably more.
It turned out what TM was doing was picking up training events as an instructor, then dropping the events due to "ALPA duties". Nothing wrong with this, except he was being paid full-time ALPA salary and getting paid for the events he dropped. This is a violation of ALPA national policy- if you are getting full-time pay and pick up work such as this your full-time pay has to be decreased by the same amount. The theory is that he was obstructing the merger of the LASA side and the LXJT side to keep the gravy train rolling.
He then started being investigated by both the company and ALPA national at the same time. He was even banned from stepping foot at the company HQ. He was finally forced to resign as MEC chairman, but some ALPA reps defended him to the end.
I think both ALPA national and ExpressJet just wanted him to go away, so he was permitted to resign from ExpressJet. But the damage was done. He succeeded in ****ing off just about everyone- Inc management, ExpressJet management, LXJT union reps. If it weren't for our current MEC chairman who is well respected (I'll let you look up who it is), we would probably be out of jobs.
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