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Old 06-05-2018 | 08:40 AM
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I heard that Endeavor is eventually getting 175s, is there any truth to this rumor?
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Old 06-05-2018 | 08:50 AM
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I heard that Endeavor is eventually getting 175s, is there any truth to this rumor?
Is there truth to any rumor?
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Old 06-05-2018 | 08:55 AM
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I heard that Endeavor is eventually getting 175s, is there any truth to this rumor?
Everything is a rumor until the planes are on property. But yes, we’ve been told by our CEO who also oversees Delta Connection that Delta is moving to 3 regional partners and Endeavor will do 46% of the flying. This figure has been put in writing in company communications. This would necessitate the cancelation of other carrier’s flying agreements with Delta. Whether that growth comes as 175SCs replacing CRJ700s or transfer of 175s from Compass to Endeavor or transfer of 700s to Endeavor is anyone’s guess... but the writing is on the wall that Delta will consolidate their regional feed. Ps a fleet of 3 700s makes no sense... I strongly suspect more 700s.
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Old 06-05-2018 | 12:48 PM
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It all depends what what so and so’s crystal ball says. As of today I dont see foresee us getting 175s within 2018 or any more growth for the year. The gojet rumor is dead, they have been resigned for the time being. New projected flying shows them not losing any flying come september like old numbers did.
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Old 06-05-2018 | 01:52 PM
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Don't go to endeavor until they get them. Trust me, it would really really suck to go there then not have them get 175s. Then what are you going to do? Fly a CRJ? Good luck with that, it's so much harder flying the crj than the 175, you'll most likely wash out in Sims like 50% of crj pilots. Mesa is hiring for the 175, so is skywest last I heard. Horizon too. The most important thing is to preserve your career with as few pink slips as possible.
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Old 06-05-2018 | 01:53 PM
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It all depends what what so and so’s crystal ball says. As of today I dont see foresee us getting 175s within 2018 or any more growth for the year. The gojet rumor is dead, they have been resigned for the time being. New projected flying shows them not losing any flying come september like old numbers did.
Ya, this is the third time Delta spoke of reassigning the 700’s. It always seems to be towards the end of the GoJet CPA term. I trust Delta/Endeavor management about as far as I can throw them. Maybe all the talk about 3 regionals is part of the whipsaw too.
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Old 06-06-2018 | 06:11 AM
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Don't go to endeavor until they get them. Trust me, it would really really suck to go there then not have them get 175s. Then what are you going to do? Fly a CRJ? Good luck with that, it's so much harder flying the crj than the 175, you'll most likely wash out in Sims like 50% of crj pilots. Mesa is hiring for the 175, so is skywest last I heard. Horizon too. The most important thing is to preserve your career with as few pink slips as possible.
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Old 06-06-2018 | 08:11 AM
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I honestly do not believe EDV has in the ability to handle anymore aircraft, especially another fleet type, right now. With all the hiring and expansion this year, they are playing catch up. Training has been messy.

I also don't believe the 3 carrier scenario as I do not think the three carriers mentioned can handle all the tasks with the resources they have. Keep in mind, it's an idea and the mother ship changes their mind a lot.

In my opinion, with JetBlue and Frontier pilot contracts coming, it will become more difficult to attract and retain people. I think with the summer slow down of hiring at the D, more pilots will go grab a seat at those carriers, as well as Spirit and Allegiant, and try from there.

Attaining another fleet would be a huge undertaking. Also, contract 2019 is around the corner at the D and that will throw a wrench in the works. I was not surprised by the Go-Jet deal. It was a great rumor, as is the EMB 170/175 which has been around a while. More of a carrot me thinks.

I would try for a wholly owned now. Two big reasons; one, the flow! Two, if the music stops where would you want to spend the time waiting? That bird in the hand thing I keep hearing about.

Right now, we honestly aren't sure what is going to happen at EDV as we keep expecting announcements etc. Maybe expect the unexpected? I would NOT expect anything more this year though.
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Old 06-06-2018 | 02:44 PM
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When BL spoke to our new hire class on his first day on the job, he did say 3 carriers, each flying CRJ and ERJ. This also came with the caveat: no 175’s at EDV until 2019. This has not yet become a falsehood...

There was no mention of how we would get there, but there are a multitude of scenarios that would accomplish the objectives above. Compass? GoJet? Who knows?

The proximity of everything Compass will keep this rumor alive until one of the two no longer exists.


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