Dual class is going away... Only 50 seat ops..

I also heard that good rates would be offered, but that we may have to contribute more for insurance, LTD, reduce vacation, sick time, PBS. Company wants to show higher paying rates. Nominal rates can be 10, 12, 15 dollars more, but if we have to give up benefits or contribute more towards our benefits, the effective rate would be much lower. I'm not saying that everything is bad, but certainly when we vote, we need to make sure we'll do it consciously.

This is all sounding so familiar... (sounds just like a OO TA. “Top 3”, but make it only if you add your bonus into it.... PBS, ect... Don’t fall formit for 20 shiny new jets. Maybe ifnit was a total fleet replacement but not 20. That will only effect the top 180 pilots..

LTD is separate issue not related to current negotiations, according to ALPA. Everything else will prolong the negotiations and none of the parties want that now. Are they being being considered? Sure but I wouldn’t expect them in any upcoming TA.

As was told to me by some in the union, the idea is to ultimately switch to PBS, regulated by the union, and with Skywest's credit rules (4:12 min day, 2:1 duty rig, 4:1 trip rig) and increased vacation to partly compensate for the loss of vacation conflict. There's also the possibility of increased overtime pay similar to Endeavor (all OT at 150%, red flag at 200%).

The recent union emails made it seem like they intend to hold the line on insurance and 401k, but we'll see what the final offer is. I think worst case 401K and insurance could go from industry leading to industry standard. They could also do other little things, like increasing the trigger for downtown hotels.

Will obviously need to see the total package before making a decision either way.

Thanks for the update

For the L-XJT guys... what’s the talk among the pilot group on the latest update on the negotiations?

Last weeks agreement (mngmt & NC) was rejected by the MEC. Back to talks

Shouldn’t that be expected? Never take the first pass?


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Any idea if the agreement didn’t pass by a small margin or was it totally shot down?