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Couldn't say exactly... maybe this will shed some light...
27 August 2018 In order to dispel the many rumors circulating on social media, your NC wants to stress that we have not considered, and will never consider, accepting any type of "low-ball" offer in exchange for promises of aircraft or other deals. The NC does not feel that the latest company offer was a "low-ball" offer, as it was very close to what we wanted, and they are planning to meet with management negotiators again all this week to continue to work toward a deal with a structure acceptable to the MEC and, ultimately, the pilot group. While we are working out final details of the financial framework, we will also begin to iron out the work rule improvements that we want to achieve in Contract 2018 so that our agreed-upon aggressive bargaining timeline can continue. Management had informed the NC that they wanted an indication by the end of last week that a TA could be reached and ratified in a timely manner so that they would feel comfortable moving forward with the process of placing E175s on our operating certificate. The certification process is lengthy and expensive and we agree it needs to begin as early as possible so that delivery of aircraft can begin on schedule in April 2019. Rest assured that your union leadership has heard your concerns and is seeking the market-rate financial package you have all asked for on a timeline that will allow us to bring E175s on property. We will continue to provide updates as we progress. |
Originally Posted by Arliss
(Post 2661946)
As was told to me by some in the union, the idea is to ultimately switch to PBS, regulated by the union, and with Skywest's credit rules (4:12 min day, 2:1 duty rig, 4:1 trip rig) and increased vacation to partly compensate for the loss of vacation conflict. There's also the possibility of increased overtime pay similar to Endeavor (all OT at 150%, red flag at 200%).
The recent union emails made it seem like they intend to hold the line on insurance and 401k, but we'll see what the final offer is. I think worst case 401K and insurance could go from industry leading to industry standard. They could also do other little things, like increasing the trigger for downtown hotels. Will obviously need to see the total package before making a decision either way. FYI, the smartpref LOA had 4:30 minimum daily average credit and 5:00 vacation award credit. Both needed to be higher than those numbers to maintain equal QOL (days off). As for industry standard for 401k, that would mean the elimination of the company contribution and reduction of the matching funds. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ei62rvc1da...azine.pdf?dl=0 |
Originally Posted by Nevjets
(Post 2663091)
FYI, the smartpref LOA had 4:30 minimum daily average credit and 5:00 vacation award credit. Both needed to be higher than those numbers to maintain equal QOL (days off). As for industry standard for 401k, that would mean the elimination of the company contribution and reduction of the matching funds.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ei62rvc1da...azine.pdf?dl=0 |
Contract 2018
Originally Posted by andili61
(Post 2663347)
Endeavor 401k is 12%, Republic is 6% company match. Why would we have to go down? They want contract to be able to bring people, going "standard" on this department is not reasonable.
Endeavor’s is only higher after 10 YOS. You picked probably the only two other regionals out of another dozen who can say their matching is better. But just like there are only to other regionals with a B fund contribution (which are both lower than xjt), it doesn’t make it industry standard. I also forgot to mention in my previous post that industry standard in employee’s contribution to health insurance is also higher (higher premium costs) than at xjt. My only point to the poster I quoted is that industry standard in these areas is going to be a concession in real dollars and cents. |
quiet out here
Any feel for what is going on with the Negotiation front this week. Not getting much info on the LASA side... I know there is not much anyway.. but do the LXJT side guys have a feel for any of it?
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The only thing we can tell is that it sounds like they're almost at a TA but did not give a definite time frame. They also continue to emphasize that they will not accept a low ball TA under the promise of new Ejets.
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Originally Posted by Arliss
(Post 2663811)
The only thing we can tell is that it sounds like they're almost at a TA but did not give a definite time frame. They also continue to emphasize that they will not accept a low ball TA under the promise of new Ejets.
Thanks Arliss |
Originally Posted by andili61
(Post 2663347)
Endeavor 401k is 12%, Republic is 6% company match. Why would we have to go down? They want contract to be able to bring people, going "standard" on this department is not reasonable.
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I am hearing an agreement has been established between the company and MEC and the ball has already begun rolling to bring the 175s to XJT. Anyone have details?
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That's all we know. An agreement in principle has been reach, it's non-concessionary, and our management notified the FAA of the intent to add the 175 to the certificate. Details of the TA to come next week.
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