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Originally Posted by Puck Hawg
(Post 2669769)
No vote for the ASA side because all flying beyond the closure of AA and Delta will be under the ERJ contract.
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So the new CRJ 200 flying in ORD. Will those work under the ERJ or CRJ side contract? I'm assuming they will fall under the ERJ since it is United flying?
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Originally Posted by Hou757
(Post 2669809)
So the new CRJ 200 flying in ORD. Will those work under the ERJ or CRJ side contract? I'm assuming they will fall under the ERJ since it is United flying?
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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk
(Post 2669813)
ERJ, but the TA will be decided long before the first flight is operated.
Copy that.... |
At this point, I'm less concerned about being able to vote than what's in the TA.
Oh, and what's up with ILIW and SLIW??? So we take seniority and flush it down the toilet??? |
It doesn’t really circumvent seniority. You bid hard lines, your seniority holds whatever it gets.
The ILIW is a 24 hr period that opens up and is a mad dash to trade trips with whatever got dropped into open time via vacation drops/training/etc If there’s “coverage”, which there is for maybe 45 seconds, you can trade down a 4 day or two for a day trip, and then rebuild your line as you need. The floor is 60 hrs, so you can’t go below it. There’s a science to it. People have multiple windows opened and sync their computers with the company software so at 7:59:58 they know they can hit submit and be right on the 8:00:00 dot to get a trade in (that’s ORD at least). It’s legit over in 1-2 minutes. The SLIW is whatever garbage 8 hr 4 days are left that aren’t even built into relief lines. At this point in the month, there’s zero shot of dropping anything. |
Originally Posted by Puck Hawg
(Post 2669769)
No vote for the ASA side because all flying beyond the closure of AA and Delta will be under the ERJ contract.
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Originally Posted by Puck Hawg
(Post 2669949)
It doesn’t really circumvent seniority. You bid hard lines, your seniority holds whatever it gets.
The ILIW is a 24 hr period that opens up and is a mad dash to trade trips with whatever got dropped into open time via vacation drops/training/etc If there’s “coverage”, which there is for maybe 45 seconds, you can trade down a 4 day or two for a day trip, and then rebuild your line as you need. The floor is 60 hrs, so you can’t go below it. There’s a science to it. People have multiple windows opened and sync their computers with the company software so at 7:59:58 they know they can hit submit and be right on the 8:00:00 dot to get a trade in (that’s ORD at least). It’s legit over in 1-2 minutes. The SLIW is whatever garbage 8 hr 4 days are left that aren’t even built into relief lines. At this point in the month, there’s zero shot of dropping anything. |
Originally Posted by calmwinds
(Post 2669970)
What date is the seniority list finally merged, and the ASA guys moved over to the new contract? When are new hires given the option of the CRJ?
A handful of CRJ pilots were permitted to bid over to the ERJ before management realized the CRJ pilots were stampeding out the door to other airlines and they were in danger of not fulfilling the contracts with AAL and DAL. The first CRJ's go over to LXJT in October our of ORD. I imagine with the implosion of the CRJ pilot group new hires will be offered that soon. I'm going to guess we will lose about 150 pilots in September. Possibly more. |
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From the LASA side... The general feel I get from our group is "Let do this"....
I think everyone gets that there wasn't time to go through what we went through last time, and that while we would have liked to have been included.... so be it.. move on and lets get this done... We're rooting for you out here... |
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