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PhantomHawk 02-06-2019 03:53 PM
Originally Posted by Parma3980 (Post 2758518)
One in a career is acceptable any more than one is excessive If there wasn’t a pilot shortage you would be a career flight instructor
There isn’t a pilot shortage at the Legacy level. They can still afford to be picky.

dera 02-06-2019 08:56 PM
Originally Posted by da42pilot (Post 2758525)
Where do you work? I’ve never heard of that before. Not doubting just surprised that’s possible.
Envoy, that's how it's done here. KV is a computer based test, SV/PV is your oral including systems and FM1.

calmwinds 02-07-2019 03:12 AM
Originally Posted by dera (Post 2758719)
Envoy, that's how it's done here. KV is a computer based test, SV/PV is your oral including systems and FM1.
Each AQP program is different. Some even exclude maneuvers like steep turns in the MV checkride. Some just need steep turns trained to proficiency. Their MV focuses on manuevers an airline pilot does.

Xjet can’t be on a AQP for the Ejets yet for initial, right?

dera 02-07-2019 11:17 AM
Originally Posted by calmwinds (Post 2758767)
Each AQP program is different. Some even exclude maneuvers like steep turns in the MV checkride. Some just need steep turns trained to proficiency. Their MV focuses on manuevers an airline pilot does.

Xjet can’t be on a AQP for the Ejets yet for initial, right?
We don't do steep turns at all actually.
Not a maneuver you do in a transport category jet, so why bother.

terks43 02-07-2019 11:24 AM
Originally Posted by dera (Post 2759196)
We don't do steep turns at all actually.
Not a maneuver you do in a transport category jet, so why bother.
Until it all hits the fan and you find yourself face to face with an immovable object...

dera 02-07-2019 11:32 AM
Originally Posted by terks43 (Post 2759206)
Until it all hits the fan and you find yourself face to face with an immovable object...
Given that history does not know of a single event when a steep turn would've helped, I'm not sure if it's really relevant training.

calmwinds 02-07-2019 11:33 AM
Originally Posted by dera (Post 2759196)
We don't do steep turns at all actually.
Not a maneuver you do in a transport category jet, so why bother.
Are you speaking for your Ejet program? Is it AQP?

dera 02-07-2019 11:35 AM
Originally Posted by calmwinds (Post 2759214)
Are you speaking for your Ejet program? Is it AQP?
Yes, and yes.

watch 02-07-2019 02:43 PM
What “manuevers” do you do if not even steep turns?

flynd94 02-07-2019 05:41 PM
Originally Posted by watch (Post 2759383)
What “manuevers” do you do if not even steep turns?
Stalls (all configurations), UA attitude recovery, upset recovery, wind shear, TCAS, EGPWS to name a few


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