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Old 02-07-2019, 06:20 PM   #21  
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Old 02-07-2019, 09:27 PM   #22  
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What ďmanueversĒ do you do if not even steep turns?
V1 cut, SE go-around, Cat II approaches to landing and missed, SE approaches, you know, the important and relevant stuff.
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I havenít heard before of a program where basic ATP maneuvers arenít part of the AQP, but I guess that could be the case. V1 cuts arenít part of the day to day 121 flying but they are still usually something that is tested. You donít normally do stall recovery as well, but that is also part of most training programs.
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I havenít heard before of a program where basic ATP maneuvers arenít part of the AQP, but I guess that could be the case. V1 cuts arenít part of the day to day 121 flying but they are still usually something that is tested. You donít normally do stall recovery as well, but that is also part of most training programs.
You arenít tested on stalls on the airbus at some airlines.
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You arenít tested on stalls on the airbus at some airlines.
Iím not sure how that is possible as itís a requirement of 121.419. Sounds like another Colgan 3407 looking for a place to happen.
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Iím not sure how that is possible as itís a requirement of 121.419. Sounds like another Colgan 3407 looking for a place to happen.
United airlines. Hardly the next colgan.

Itís a check the box item in training. The plane doesnít stall. You have to have multiple system failures before it can happen. No stalls in any of the 3 validation rides.
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United airlines. Hardly the next colgan.

Itís a check the box item in training. The plane doesnít stall. You have to have multiple system failures before it can happen. No stalls in any of the 3 validation rides.
Yeah, itís not like thereís ever been a major accident with everyone killed because a modern airbus stalled.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447

Iím not attacking UAL or their training, everyone I know that has gone through it says itís exceptional. But the Airbus can stall, and it has happened.
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Yeah, itís not like thereís ever been a major accident with everyone killed because a modern airbus stalled.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447

Iím not attacking UAL or their training, everyone I know that has gone through it says itís exceptional. But the Airbus can stall, and it has happened.
Obviously it can! But like I said multiple system failures.
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United airlines. Hardly the next colgan.

Itís a check the box item in training. The plane doesnít stall. You have to have multiple system failures before it can happen. No stalls in any of the 3 validation rides.
I see now what you wrote. ďTestedĒ and I assumed trained.
Still, any airline can have an accident. Taking to friends who are in training departments at majors one of the things that scares them is the lack of breadth among many new hires. Many have never even been a PIC under 121.
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I see now what you wrote. ďTestedĒ and I assumed trained.
Still, any airline can have an accident. Taking to friends who are in training departments at majors one of the things that scares them is the lack of breadth among many new hires. Many have never even been a PIC under 121.
The many you refer to are military or minority.
Such is life that they get preference over more qualified candidates.
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