Woooooow that E175 upgrade time dropped
 

I’m all for it, I’ve followed XJT for a while and as a newbie I’ll support the MEC. Most of what I was told by the recruiters a few months ago hasn’t panned out.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Apples to oranges. Frontier sells their own tickets and doesn’t compete with anybody based on cost.

I'm not an expert; is there another airline in the industry with four labor unions antagonistic towards their company and asking for renegotiation? Pilots, FAs, mechanics, and dispatchers.

Like PH stated F9 sells their owns tickets, what does Xjet sell? I will tell you what they sell... nothing. Regionals are staffing agencies/subcontractors. Become to expensive/want to much and someone else will do your job for a little less and a quicker upgrade.

Now I am not saying accept crap pay/work rules but be conscious of how much you push the envelope. Yes the new mgmt team at Xjet hasn’t held up their end of the bargain. The union should went for more binding language to force them to negotiate

I agree wholeheartedly with you and PH, apples and oranges. We sell nothing. But what we are asking for is to be brought inline with the regional industry. A rising tide raises all ships, yet we seem to be a submarine maintaining periscope depth.

Ok, I'll bite.
Management does management stuff. You know, like keeping their employees happy with good pay and benefits. Management is responsible for growth, not pilots.
Pretty simple really. All of you rocket surgeons who think pilots are responsible for growth think too highly of yourselves.

It's not that.

It's that of the employees that are required to get a plane off the ground, we are probably the longest lead time to get qualified and I'm certain it's the most expensive. (Be interesting to show cost of training/return on investment for the following four fields.)

Considering the above list of FA, mech, dispatch, pilot.

So, you have to have a steady pipeline with a long lead time and it's expensive and the training is paid for by the employee up to the time of hiring.

Dispatch: 2 week course.
FA: 6 weeks? (Don't recall.)
Mechanic: 24-30 months, can be done 100% as apprentice program I believe?
Pilot: 2 years min (1250 hrs/Associates. Aside from military but the only ones we could get inside of 10 years is Guard/Reserve. A limited supply.)

It's not ego I don't think. State another employee type that takes more time/money to train.

DSPS, you've stated that you are a new hire at ExpressJet. Yet you seem to have your finger on the pulse of flight operations, recruiting, and our future. So, DSPS come clean are you really a new hire or someone from the GO? I don't have a problem if you're from the GO just be honest!

701EV

Actually there is a August 2016 hire who is on the E175 CA ORD list. He must've bypassed 19-04 and missed all that 145 CA EWR upgrading. Times are getting interesting

Please explain how the cost and time to train an XJT pilot has anything to do with managing growth, which is what I commented on...