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SureJetz 09-26-2019 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by XJTFO (Post 2894087)
They do have AQP but they have a very high drop out rate. When you are hiring hundreds of pilots from GA and not giving them a fair chance , that's crappy training. I have heard countless real stories of pilots who drop out at SkyWest and do better elsewhere. We have drop outs too but its far lower than the others, especially SKW. Considering I did not experience Skywest myself I guess it was wrong to comment, but I hear it all over the place.

That’s far from anything anecdotal. There’s nothing wrong with an airline holding pilots to standards. People’s loved ones are on these planes. Air Wisconsin is no gem yet they do hold their new pilots to high standards as well.

That’s hardly “crap training”.

Having said that, yes ExpressJet training is very good.

PhantomHawk 09-26-2019 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by SureJetz (Post 2894090)
There’s nothing wrong with an airline holding pilots to standards. People’s loved ones are on these planes.l.

THIS x 1000

I actually find it pathetic how often the questions of “are they AQP?” or “do they give as many extra sims as needed?” get asked nowadays. Extra help for somebody who has hit a snag is definitely something that should happen, but endless hand-holding is NOT a sign of “good training”. Good training provides you with the tools you need to succeed. If you can’t hack it, or just suck at this.......at some point, I’m happy to say you shouldn’t have this job. I don’t have a spotless record from my time at XJT but I also pulled my $hit together immediately following any snags. The washout rate was plenty high when I went through initial, and those guys were given second chances before that happened. Training was excellent. Some people need 3 or 4 attempts to pass. We shouldn’t call those people airline pilots.

DoSomePilotStuf 09-27-2019 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by SureJetz (Post 2894090)
That’s far from anything anecdotal. There’s nothing wrong with an airline holding pilots to standards. People’s loved ones are on these planes. Air Wisconsin is no gem yet they do hold their new pilots to high standards as well.

That’s hardly “crap training”.

Having said that, yes ExpressJet training is very good.

So you have some first hand experience with SkyWest training? I know several pilots who have been through it and all said it was a horrible experience.

Paid2fly 09-28-2019 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2894179)
So you have some first hand experience with SkyWest training? I know several pilots who have been through it and all said it was a horrible experience.




Really, do tell? Would love to hear the details.

DoSomePilotStuf 09-28-2019 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 2894961)
Really, do tell? Would love to hear the details.

It’s not first hand info, so it has basically zero value. But they both said that some of the instructors raised their voices and were very impatient. Not a lot of extra help. Dual occupancy wasn’t great.

DownInPetaluma 09-28-2019 02:22 PM

DSPS...riding coattails into the sunset.

TFAYD 09-28-2019 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2894179)
So you have some first hand experience with SkyWest training? I know several pilots who have been through it and all said it was a horrible experience.


Dude - you have no idea what you are talking about. SKYW offers some of the beat training in the industry.

SureJetz 09-28-2019 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 2895081)
Dude - you have no idea what you are talking about. SKYW offers some of the beat training in the industry.

He's a troll.

XJTFO 09-28-2019 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by SureJetz (Post 2894090)
That’s far from anything anecdotal. There’s nothing wrong with an airline holding pilots to standards. People’s loved ones are on these planes. Air Wisconsin is no gem yet they do hold their new pilots to high standards as well.

That’s hardly “crap training”.

Having said that, yes ExpressJet training is very good.

This has nothing to do with standards. It has to do with learning curves. A good training program will not dump a pilot because they need a few extra SIM sessions.

amcnd 09-28-2019 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by XJTFO (Post 2895115)
This has nothing to do with standards. It has to do with learning curves. A good training program will not dump a pilot because they need a few extra SIM sessions.

Most airlines have “policy” not sure what XJT ‘s is. SkyWest policy is 10 hrs extra training . That can be used in FTD/Maneuvers/loft..


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