SureJetz

Yes and the cream of the crop candidates will be scooped up by the Envoys, PSA’s, Piedmont’s and Endeavor wholly owned’s as well as SkyWest and Republic in the non wholly owned sector.

ThisIsMe17

What does it take to get hired by a Major besides a pretty much spotless record, a degree, and interview skills?

Anyone know anyone with something like 4+ busts on their record who is now at a Major?

HighWingingIt

Helps if you know a few people that work for whomever you’re applying to.


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ThisIsMe17

Hi, nice to meet you.

PhantomHawk

I don’t have a spotless record, and I was able to make it. I also know somebody with a felony who made it to a different Legacy. It has a LOT to do with how you own your past, and how it has shaped the person you are today. The hardest part of getting hired is getting the interview. Once you have the interview, it’s up to you.

In all fairness......the felony dude is a VERY unique situation. Don’t expect that outcome to happen with any sort of regularity.

Puck Hawg

A lot of the important things are determined in your mothers womb.

itsmytime

I don’t know them personally, but anytime there is a “checkride failures” thread, a person or 2 will always show up and say they have 4 or more, and made it to the big show.

ThisIsMe17

How do you go about getting an interview if online applications get flagged and tossed away by a computer?

PhantomHawk

In my case, I went to job fairs and hustled, which netted a couple interviews....but the one that mattered was my CPP interview. I did professional interview prep and really focused hard on taking responsibility for all perceived negatives in my past. I knew I would have to talk about certain things, and being prepared made all the difference. They know not everyone is perfect. They want to hear what happened, what you learned from it, and how it’s made you a better pilot/employee/human being. It also has a LOT to do with HOW you say things. Many people have been turned down for saying “I already fly United passengers” in a very entitled way. I answered the same question with slightly different wording, and it was received well. I told them I felt like I would be a good fit for United because I’ve been flying in the United system for many years and I’m very familiar with the culture and the product. Basically I told them I already fly their passengers, but I didn’t sound like an entitled and bitter prick. Attitude is everything. We are ALL pretty much qualified after a few years. That’s not what makes the difference.

To answer your question.......if you’re concerned about your online app being flagged and tossed out, hire an application review service to go over your app and fix anything that can be fixed. You’d be surprised how easily a good candidate can be ignored because of simple mistakes on the app, which is why it’s SO important to get it right if you know you have some black marks working against you.

ThisIsMe17

Thanks! I’ve been trying to go to more career fairs. Like I mentioned before, I’m still working on my R-ATP mins but I’m starting to network now. I should’ve started a lot earlier while I was still in college. I wrongly thought recruiters wouldn’t care that I only had my PPL so I held off on putting myself out there more. Unfortunately I don’t qualify for many of the cadet programs anymore since I’m already graduated and don’t instruct at one of the certain partner schools.

One thing that has helped me in the meantime has been calling the recruiting departments of some airlines if I can manage on finding a phone number. I’ve generally had positive experiences doing that. I also feel like it helps me talk to recruiters better.

I definitely don’t have a spotless pilot record but I feel like I have some things that I can turn into a positive light. One recruiter even said they’d rather hire someone who has faced adversity rather than someone who has never really failed anything before. I suppose they get so used to being successful that the first time they encounter a true setback they could react in unpredictable ways