175 Checkride experience?
12-16-2019, 11:19 AM
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175 Checkride experience?
I was wondering if someone could post some recent experience with the 175 checkride. I wasn't aware that the 175 training program was not AQP so I am curious about how that works. One of the attractions to ExpressJet was the AQP training. What is the checkride like and what does it entail? Any clue about the pass rate?
12-16-2019, 02:39 PM
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Don’t sweat it not being AQP. If you are trainable, the instructors will get you ready for the checkride. The sim prior you fly the full profile and have to be recommended for the type ride.
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12-16-2019, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseAg03
Don’t sweat it not being AQP. If you are trainable, the instructors will get you ready for the checkride. The sim prior you fly the full profile and have to be recommended for the type ride.
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12-16-2019, 06:36 PM
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They say "train to proficiency" what does that mean and is that a 145 thing or both? It paints a mental picture that if you mess something up on a checkride you will retrain to proficiency and proceed. Makes it seem like it's more difficult to NOT pass than it is to pass.
12-17-2019, 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by HighWingingIt
How’s the Oral portion? Examiners?
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You are given a Knowledge Validation study guide. The questions will all come from there. A few examiners will ask other stuff related to what switches do and how systems work that may not be exactly from the KV guide. If you study you will be fine. They are very fair.
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12-17-2019, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by scubadiver
They say "train to proficiency" what does that mean and is that a 145 thing or both? It paints a mental picture that if you mess something up on a checkride you will retrain to proficiency and proceed. Makes it seem like it's more difficult to NOT pass than it is to pass.
What it means is this. In the pre-AQP era you showed up for recurrent sim. Your second takeoff is a V1 cut, it has to be preformed to the ATP standards. You do steep turns to ATP standards. You do these maneuvers once a year. Train to proficiency means if you are outside the standard you do a couple more till you meet the standard. Most of us it takes 2 V1 cuts to work out the rust.
AQP just made training realistic.
12-17-2019, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by flynd94
What it means is this. In the pre-AQP era you showed up for recurrent sim. Your second takeoff is a V1 cut, it has to be preformed to the ATP standards. You do steep turns to ATP standards. You do these maneuvers once a year. Train to proficiency means if you are outside the standard you do a couple more till you meet the standard. Most of us it takes 2 V1 cuts to work out the rust.
AQP just made training realistic.
AQP just made training realistic.
12-17-2019, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by scubadiver
I was asking about initial though. Not recurrent.
Ok, then. It’s broken into 2 phases. MV and LOFT. Under the old system you had 6 sims and a check ride.
Now you do approx. 5/6 sim sessions and take the MV (stalls, steep turns, V1 cuts, OEI approach/landing and normal TO/LDG. You won’t do these again till your recurrent MV.
In loft you fly 4/6 simulated line flights with threats. Nothing big, learn CRM/TEM. Then a QLOE and you are done.
Much more gentle and you get extra sessions within reason. When I was a new hire you got 2 extra sessions and fired if you needed more.
12-17-2019, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by flynd94
Ok, then. It’s broken into 2 phases. MV and LOFT. Under the old system you had 6 sims and a check ride.
Now you do approx. 5/6 sim sessions and take the MV (stalls, steep turns, V1 cuts, OEI approach/landing and normal TO/LDG. You won’t do these again till your recurrent MV.
In loft you fly 4/6 simulated line flights with threats. Nothing big, learn CRM/TEM. Then a QLOE and you are done.
Much more gentle and you get extra sessions within reason. When I was a new hire you got 2 extra sessions and fired if you needed more.
Now you do approx. 5/6 sim sessions and take the MV (stalls, steep turns, V1 cuts, OEI approach/landing and normal TO/LDG. You won’t do these again till your recurrent MV.
In loft you fly 4/6 simulated line flights with threats. Nothing big, learn CRM/TEM. Then a QLOE and you are done.
Much more gentle and you get extra sessions within reason. When I was a new hire you got 2 extra sessions and fired if you needed more.
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