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Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve
(Post 2973921)
I don’t think they were “ours”. We just expected to get them.
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Originally Posted by HighWingingIt
(Post 2974188)
As far as I know those 19 remaining 175’s still have yet to be assigned to someone
the trigger I’d say their is a chance XJT could get them but hell I wouldn’t count on it. Scope is also an issue too, they’d have to replace 19 70 seaters somehow |
Originally Posted by flynd94
(Post 2974204)
What’s interesting when I talk to DAL pilots and my friends that are at DAL they are jealous of how many wide body jets at UA. UA has more top paying jobs then DAL, profit sharing isn’t a sure thing.
My last trip talking with a DAL crew about progression. I told them I had 16 years left at UA and I will retire as an equivalent as a 767 CA. The new hire FO (same age) will write as a NB CA. it’s all perspective Again, perspective. |
Don’t underestimate the impact that an airline’s size has on recruiting. A lot of new hires view size and stability as one in the same, and bigger airlines, particularly OO YX MQ OH 9E and even YV are pretty well staffed. More airplanes, bases, and partners are a big sell to new hires.
The smaller airlines seem to have more trouble hiring. Tool over to the Piedmont forum, you’ll see the pilot group has shrunk and recruiting can’t keep up with attrition, even with the flow carrot. There’s whisperings that a Piedmont-Envoy merge may happen someday. I agree that both EV and C5 have pieces that the other needs, and if they can both add more bases and appear more stable with a merge, it might be worthwhile. |
Originally Posted by 3400
(Post 2974261)
Don’t underestimate the impact that an airline’s size has on recruiting. A lot of new hires view size and stability as one in the same, and bigger airlines, particularly OO YX MQ OH 9E and even YV are pretty well staffed. More airplanes, bases, and partners are a big sell to new hires.
The smaller airlines seem to have more trouble hiring. Tool over to the Piedmont forum, you’ll see the pilot group has shrunk and recruiting can’t keep up with attrition, even with the flow carrot. There’s whisperings that a Piedmont-Envoy merge may happen someday. I agree that both EV and C5 have pieces that the other needs, and if they can both add more bases and appear more stable with a merge, it might be worthwhile. |
Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR
(Post 2974260)
Yep and that $50k in the bank now compounded will easily overcome the extra pay you’ll make for a few years as a 767 CA. Not everyone cares about flying a wide body plane internationally.
Again, perspective. I will take higher paying WB seats, 16% DC and better career progression over a PS that can disappear. What are you doing to get out of evil Xjet/UAX system? Head over the other forums. The grass isn’t always greener. AA wholly owned are claiming about subpar pay. EDV pilots complain about the low pass rate on their program. |
Originally Posted by flynd94
(Post 2974274)
You are new to the industry, profit sharing is relatively new. It’s based on certain benchmarks being met. As quick as it’s shown up it can go away.
I will take higher paying WB seats, 16% DC and better career progression over a PS that can disappear. You are pretty bitter. What are you doing to get out of evil Xjet/UAX system? Head over the other forums. The grass isn’t always greener. AA wholly owned are claiming about subpar pay. EDV pilots complain about the low pass rate on their program. I’m gaining hours and experience to go to an LCC or even Envoy / Endeavor if EWR closes or shrinks small enough. Endeavor may not have flow but they at least have great pay and contract. Envoy has a flow and their pay is better than ours. No EQO over there, just straight pay. XJT is far from bad or evil but also not very competitive in the current market. The shrinking airline and very small new hire classes bear that out. Just think United could do more to make this airline attractive. Closing bases and fighting all three work groups isn’t helping anything. Why do you still post here incessantly after leaving? Haven’t you moved on? |
Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR
(Post 2974260)
Yep and that $50k in the bank now compounded will easily overcome the extra pay you’ll make for a few years as a 767 CA. Not everyone cares about flying a wide body plane internationally.
Again, perspective. I totally understand how people are bitter when they aren’t selected.....but to then act like United sucks is pretty disingenuous. You clearly wanted to work there at one point. |
Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
(Post 2974556)
I guess UAL did you a solid by not hiring you?
I totally understand how people are bitter when they aren’t selected.....but to then act like United sucks is pretty disingenuous. You clearly wanted to work there at one point. |
Originally Posted by flynd94
(Post 2974274)
You are new to the industry, profit sharing is relatively new. It’s based on certain benchmarks being met. As quick as it’s shown up it can go away.
I will take higher paying WB seats, 16% DC and better career progression over a PS that can disappear. You are pretty bitter. What are you doing to get out of evil Xjet/UAX system? Head over the other forums. The grass isn’t always greener. AA wholly owned are claiming about subpar pay. EDV pilots complain about the low pass rate on their program. |
Originally Posted by airlinepilot50
(Post 2974857)
How many years of life expectancy do you lose as a WB pilot?
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
(Post 2974898)
That’s an industry myth. People who are healthy and take care of themselves do just fine as WB pilots. The grossly overweight regional CA standing in line for Whataburger and Bullritos is limiting his life expectancy also.
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Originally Posted by airlinepilot50
(Post 2974948)
It's not a myth. WB sit for 12 plus hours, crossing multiple time zones each week. This reduces your life expectancy, ask any doctor.
ps-I have talked with my docs at Northwestern and they agree with Read |
Originally Posted by airlinepilot50
(Post 2974948)
It's not a myth. WB sit for 12 plus hours, crossing multiple time zones each week. This reduces your life expectancy, ask any doctor.
what you are saying is true of SOME people. Those guys are great. They will vacate the seniority list a little sooner for the rest of us. |
Originally Posted by airlinepilot50
(Post 2974948)
It's not a myth. WB sit for 12 plus hours, crossing multiple time zones each week. This reduces your life expectancy, ask any doctor.
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
(Post 2974898)
That’s an industry myth. People who are healthy and take care of themselves do just fine as WB pilots. The grossly overweight regional CA standing in line for Whataburger and Bullritos is limiting his life expectancy also.
It's no myth. It's a proven fact. Not sure how long you've been in the business. Do some home work before you speak of what you do not know. 701EV |
Originally Posted by 701EV
(Post 2975175)
RO7,
It's no myth. It's a proven fact. Not sure how long you've been in the business. Do some home work before you speak of what you do not know. 701EV 20+ years in a rj doesn’t exactly give one much room to say what long haul flying is like. For those that don’t take care of themselves it can put some hard miles on the body. I never see those guys in the gym. Once you learn what works for you, WB flying is what you make of it. I fly productive trips, get a bunch of sleep, and I’m in pretty good shape for a older guy. My trips involve a 12 hr duty day going out, and a 14 hour day heading home with a 3-3.5 hour break in the bunks. I don’t go bar hopping with the guys, but I’m much more healthy than those who do. |
Originally Posted by watch
(Post 2973705)
The NDA-limited poster has put their name and reputation on the line with the revelation that upcoming news is so bad that they are planning their exit from the company, and feels disloyal for not "spilling the beans" to the entire pilot group.
If nothing materializes, they will have lost credibility for "behind the scenes information". If something does materialize, I'll be surprised that it was not leaked. For now I maintain my belief that this is all standard rumor-mill / psychological warfare. |
Originally Posted by UnitedExpress
(Post 2975253)
JB resigned today from his ALPA position after he basically yelled, “FIRE!” in the theatre. Apparently that was a violation of his NDA with what he said. This revelation he discovered could not be withheld from his coworkers because it supposedly directly effected their lives but he never shared what the news actually was in any detail. He just said, “Horrible things are coming soon! Get your logbooks up to date!” He got everybody all worked up and ALPA asked for his resignation. He should have went ahead and spilled the beans since he was asked to resign over it.
Does that mean he'll resurface here under his 4-5th username and go back to flaming people? |
Originally Posted by UnitedExpress
(Post 2973890)
We are finally starting to see these mis-managed regionals that don't care about their pilot groups start to implode (Compass, now TSA). These companies won't be around much longer if they don't offer a flow to a LLC or start paying REAL wages. The USA has never seen a supply and demand job market this lopsided in (favor of the pilots) as what is about to happen in 2020 and beyond.
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Commuteair/xjt merge.
Originally Posted by UnitedExpress
(Post 2975253)
JB resigned today from his ALPA position after he basically yelled, “FIRE!” in the theatre. Apparently that was a violation of his NDA with what he said. This revelation he discovered could not be withheld from his coworkers because it supposedly directly effected their lives but he never shared what the news actually was in any detail. He just said, “Horrible things are coming soon! Get your logbooks up to date!” He got everybody all worked up and ALPA asked for his resignation. He should have went ahead and spilled the beans since he was asked to resign over it.
He can’t spill the beans.He is still bound by the NDA and can probably be held personally liable for violating it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Well kudos to that JB guy if there is something truly outrageous going on and he lost his position over it by speaking up. The union needs more people who aren’t pushovers to volunteer.
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
(Post 2975211)
20+ years in a rj doesn’t exactly give one much room to say what long haul flying is like. For those that don’t take care of themselves it can put some hard miles on the body. I never see those guys in the gym. Once you learn what works for you, WB flying is what you make of it. I fly productive trips, get a bunch of sleep, and I’m in pretty good shape for a older guy. My trips involve a 12 hr duty day going out, and a 14 hour day heading home with a 3-3.5 hour break in the bunks. I don’t go bar hopping with the guys, but I’m much more healthy than those who do.
Tell that to one of our FA's whose husband dropped dead of a heart attack at the age of 59 in perfect health with no family history of heart problems. He worked at Fed Ex for 24 years. Ask any Fed Ex pilot. They joke we don't live long but we make lots of money. One more thing Jr just because someone who may have been flying an RJ for over 20 years doesn't do something else on the side. Open your Eyes. 701EV |
Originally Posted by 701EV
(Post 2975468)
Ok keep believing that you know more than Boston College and the University of Texas. A study was done by Fed Ex and Air Canada separately. Your body is affected by not going to sleep when your brain tells you it's sleep time. It's not just long haul flying it's night shift jobs also.
Tell that to one of our FA's whose husband dropped dead of a heart attack at the age of 59 in perfect health with no family history of heart problems. He worked at Fed Ex for 24 years. Ask any Fed Ex pilot. They joke we don't live long but we make lots of money. One more thing Jr just because someone who may have been flying an RJ for over 20 years doesn't do something else on the side. Open your Eyes. 701EV |
Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
(Post 2975401)
Well kudos to that JB guy if there is something truly outrageous going on and he lost his position over it by speaking up. The union needs more people who aren’t pushovers to volunteer.
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
(Post 2974556)
I guess UAL did you a solid by not hiring you?
I totally understand how people are bitter when they aren’t selected.....but to then act like United sucks is pretty disingenuous. You clearly wanted to work there at one point. |
JB was/is nothing but trouble for this pilot group. Sorry he is now part of the legacy XJT group...
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Originally Posted by flynd94
(Post 2975609)
You couldn’t be further from the truth. He has never been good for the pilot group. He was/is a cancer. It started with his failed attempt with the RJDC suit, sowing the seeds of discontent between the 2 pilot groups, calling for illegal work actions and the list goes on. He is lucky to have a job at Xjet.
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Originally Posted by SureJetStick
(Post 2975988)
Oh hell he caused discontent between the pilots at ASA, let alone between the two pilot groups, way back when (BA reign), him and his gf. She still around?
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Originally Posted by SureJetStick
(Post 2975988)
Oh hell he caused discontent between the pilots at ASA, let alone between the two pilot groups, way back when (BA reign), him and his gf. She still around?
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85
(Post 2976046)
She is still around. And from what I've heard, the company is giving her a hard time about something, and he is all ****ed off over that.
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That guy was a pompous bafoon during the merger. If he had any credibility his comments might be cause for concern.
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Does anybody have any inside info as to what may be going on that this guy got all upset about?
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Originally Posted by Aquaticus
(Post 2977655)
That guy was a pompous bafoon during the merger. If he had any credibility his comments might be cause for concern.
Oh he has credibility. I take it you no longer work at XJT so you have NO idea what's going on here now. 701EV |
Originally Posted by 701EV
(Post 2978224)
Completely wrong. JB was looking out for the CRJ pilots at the time
It’s understandable why you think that’s ok. It’s also understandable why us former XJT guys think he’s less than dog mess on the bottom of our shoes. Perspective. |
Originally Posted by 701EV
(Post 2978224)
Completely wrong. JB was looking out for the CRJ pilots at the time.
Oh he has credibility. Credibility? Funny, once a lot of dirty laundry became public it was amazing how much of his toxic rhetoric simply wasn’t true. Let us guess, you’re like his 3-4th sign in on here. |
Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
(Post 2978181)
Does anybody have any inside info as to what may be going on that this guy got all upset about?
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Originally Posted by John Carr
(Post 2978273)
JB was looking out for JB.
Credibility? Funny, once a lot of dirty laundry became public it was amazing how much of his toxic rhetoric simply wasn’t true. Let us guess, you’re like his 3-4th sign in on here. |
Originally Posted by flynd94
(Post 2975609)
He is lucky to have a job at Xjet.
Lucky lol. Sorry man, a pay cut, crappy contract and a serious liability of an aircraft don’t strike me as “lucking out”. |
Originally Posted by 701EV
(Post 2978224)
Completely wrong. JB was looking out for the CRJ pilots at the time.
Oh he has credibility. I take it you no longer work at XJT so you have NO idea what's going on here now. 701EV |
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