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Osprey77 02-06-2020 11:06 AM

Commuteair/xjt merge.
 
Looks like a rumor?

UnitedExpress 02-06-2020 11:17 AM

What are your sources?

SeeYa 02-06-2020 11:37 AM

In on 1....

molitvic13 02-06-2020 03:41 PM

I could see that happening, but only because United owns 49% of ExpressJet and 40% of CommutAir. But apparently there is some HUGE news coming. So who knows 🤷🏻‍♂️ All rumor until it happens

Melit 02-06-2020 04:34 PM

Huge news? Good or bad news?

Workhard 02-06-2020 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by molitvic13 (Post 2972271)
I could see that happening, but only because United owns 49% of ExpressJet and 40% of CommutAir. But apparently there is some HUGE news coming. So who knows 🤷🏻‍♂️ All rumor until it happens

As you guys are familiar with, companies don’t merge or get purchased during labor negotiations, like xjt before purchased by mana. C5 and union in middle negotiations right now, which this month they are meeting like half the month (a lot). FAs just agreed. The company has seem real motived to get a deal done... which draws me, personally, to this conclusion that they want to merge us (and also to attract more pilots and retain). Why have two ceos and redundant staff? Both companies with sims in Houston. Not cost efficient. United personally chose the new C5 ceo. C5 fat on FOs, short on Captains and LCA. C5 working hard on bringing aqp. XJT has pieces C5 needs, vice versa.

Also, it seems real suspicious what is going on with trans states. They are cancelling classes. United has only rewarded new flying to companies willing to finance new aircraft on they own. All the united owned aircraft seem to find they way to c5 and xjt.

My two cents is it’s going to happen. Just makes sense. But. we shall see.

DirkDiggler 02-06-2020 07:23 PM

There will be an outright riot at XJT if they do a percentage based seniority list merger. Where a 3 year C5 CA percentage wise may be equivalent to a 16 year XJT CA. I'm just theorizing, but it won't go over well at XJT if that is the case. It should be based on DOH.

John Carr 02-06-2020 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by Workhard (Post 2972331)
As you guys are familiar with, companies don’t merge or get purchased during labor negotiations, like xjt before purchased by mana.

I can't remember, wasn't XJT purchased by ASA with SKW's money during labor negotiations? I believe LOA 9's provisions were done at that point.

701EV 02-06-2020 09:30 PM

The first thing you have you understand United doesn't know what the hell they are doing when its comes to United Express.

UAX is the biggest cluster suck I've ever seen. I don't blame the UAX pilots or the companies I blame United.

701EV

Air Stang 7 02-07-2020 04:26 AM

If you take a slice of cheese and merge it to a beef patty, it enhances everything for the better.

Workhard 02-07-2020 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by DirkDiggler (Post 2972382)
There will be an outright riot at XJT if they do a percentage based seniority list merger. Where a 3 year C5 CA percentage wise may be equivalent to a 16 year XJT CA. I'm just theorizing, but it won't go over well at XJT if that is the case. It should be based on DOH.

I would not see that happening. Not right thing to do. C5 seniority list compares no where near like xjt. Not many people over 5 years. Let alone 3 as captain at c5.

In response to johncarr post to under negotiations and Skywest purchasing them with a LOA, our union has rejected LOAs and made it clear it’s time for a new contract. Now could they change they mind, sure. But from what we been told, it’s a new contract. And again, that’s just my thought process on why I think we would personally merge. Either way, company (c5) knows our contract is behind and we can’t retain pilots at all because of it.

It’s all just rumor at end of day. We heard it at c5... but we go about our business like nothing gonna happen. Let’s face it, both companies are controlled by the mothership and who knows what they want.

PeakEGT 02-07-2020 06:59 AM

Yawn..I’m still waiting on our “Industry Leading Grooming Standards.”

ShooterMcGavin 02-07-2020 07:06 AM

Merge XJT/C5 and make it one big WSCoD operator and then the 175s go to Compass :p

ReadOnly7 02-07-2020 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Air Stang 7 (Post 2972488)
If you take a slice of cheese and merge it to a beef patty, it enhances everything for the better.

only for the person who eats the finished product. The meat and the cheese don’t give a crap about each other.

side note.....the c5/XJT rumor has been around for years. At one point it also included AirWis and Mesa. (All the CPP carriers)

UnitedExpress 02-07-2020 04:00 PM

Anyone wanna take a stab at the 'big news' thats supposed to be coming???

DownInPetaluma 02-07-2020 04:04 PM

Pizza party (don’t eat it all in one place).

StuckOnReserve 02-07-2020 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by UnitedExpress (Post 2972904)
Anyone wanna take a stab at the 'big news' thats supposed to be coming???

PBS

Smart Perf is no longer available. Most of the software we is still under the Skywest license and the rights to use it is going away. Software that supports bidding on lines built by the union probably isn't available anymore or cost more than a PBS would

beefburrito 02-08-2020 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by UnitedExpress (Post 2972904)
Anyone wanna take a stab at the 'big news' thats supposed to be coming???

There isn't any. Every few weeks the "big news is coming" rumor gets started and never happens.
Always been this way and always will be this way.

Melit 02-08-2020 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by UnitedExpress (Post 2972904)
Anyone wanna take a stab at the 'big news' thats supposed to be coming???

There is no big news.. The 175’s are spoken for. You can’t code share with another partner. Opening a DEN base? Possibly, but that’s not big news. A merge? That sounds like a disaster..

DoSomePilotStuf 02-08-2020 07:17 AM

I think the rumor is that bad news is coming. Who knows what. My guess is closing more bases like TYS or EWR or both. The could even close the 145 ORD base. Merger could be a possible thing as well. I’m totally throwing stuff out there, but whatever it is we won’t know for a few weeks.

StuckOnReserve 02-08-2020 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2973160)
I think the rumor is that bad news is coming. Who knows what. My guess is closing more bases like TYS or EWR or both. The could even close the 145 ORD base. Merger could be a possible thing as well. I’m totally throwing stuff out there, but whatever it is we won’t know for a few weeks.

Or we wont...

StartUp161WanaB 02-08-2020 07:42 AM

According to past few emails, I think Newark will Always have XJT presence but prolly very small base similar to CLE/TYS

DoSomePilotStuf 02-08-2020 08:24 AM

Let me put it this way. United has made it very clear that they intend to shift the 145 to IAH and away from ORD and EWR. They want to increase the 550 presence in those bases.

XJT is a United puppet. The emails we get about the future are just them painting a rosy picture when in fact they only find out what is really going on a short time before we do. Trust me no one at XJT knows what we are doing.

All I am saying is that I believe that some bad news has been handed down to XJT management and that we will find out what it is before too long.

SeeYa 02-08-2020 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2973206)
Let me put it this way. United has made it very clear that they intend to shift the 145 to IAH and away from ORD and EWR. They want to increase the 550 presence in those bases.

XJT is a United puppet. The emails we get about the future are just them painting a rosy picture when in fact they only find out what is really going on a short time before we do. Trust me no one at XJT knows what we are doing.

All I am saying is that I believe that some bad news has been handed down to XJT management and that we will find out what it is before too long.

Not everything has to be doom or gloom

ReadOnly7 02-08-2020 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by SeeYa (Post 2973208)
Not everything has to be doom or gloom

haven’t been here long, have you?

Cessna182TypeR 02-08-2020 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2973160)
I’m totally throwing stuff out there, but whatever it is we won’t know for a few weeks.

How do you know the timeline?

PeakEGT 02-08-2020 09:22 AM

The airline will close and those with valid CFI certificate will have the opportunity to fill in instructor vacancies at United’s new flight school, for an Aviate 2.0 or CPP 3.0.

...I don’t understand how some of you draw such rumors.

DoSomePilotStuf 02-08-2020 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR (Post 2973219)
How do you know the timeline?



I don’t know exactly. Going off past experience.

DoSomePilotStuf 02-08-2020 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by SeeYa (Post 2973208)
Not everything has to be doom or gloom



I agree. I was the person on here last August saying we would hire DECs and I nailed it despite everyone saying I didn’t know what I was talking about. At the time the upgrade was 5 years. If you follow my posts they aren’t generally negative at all. I always call it like I see it. I hope I am dead wrong and we announce some great things. I’m just reading the tea leaves bro.

WhatsV1 02-08-2020 11:13 AM

So United is just going to throw away what theyve invested?

DownInPetaluma 02-08-2020 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by WhatsV1 (Post 2973301)
So United is just going to throw away what theyve invested?

All that loose change

watch 02-08-2020 11:57 AM

"big news is coming soon" is a persistent rumor/joke. It is posted on these threads every 4-6 months. Fed by trolls just to stimulate the rumor mill.

WhatsV1 02-08-2020 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by watch (Post 2973331)
"big news is coming soon" is a persistent rumor/joke. It is posted on these threads every 4-6 months. Fed by trolls just to stimulate the rumor mill.

I can see that, its only on the forums and not one person talking about it anywhere else. Bunch of BS.

StuckOnReserve 02-08-2020 03:35 PM

Commuteair/xjt merge.
 

Originally Posted by WhatsV1 (Post 2973333)
I can see that, its only on the forums and not one person talking about it anywhere else. Bunch of BS.

I’m think this may be version 2.0 of the don’t come here tactics that some of the disgruntled ASA guys were tying a few months ago.

The world isn’t coming to an end.
And I think DSPS may actually be JB and not SK. Trying to paint doom and gloom here because he can’t do it on XJT pilot lounge without violating an NDA.

Scott Hall said back in November that XJT would be shifting Ops out of the northeast to the southwest. That will probably happen gradually as G7 gets the 550 staffed up.

UnitedExpress 02-08-2020 03:59 PM

What’s all the fuss about on the XJT pilot lounge with him violating the NDA?

wmupilot85 02-08-2020 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by UnitedExpress (Post 2973430)
What’s all the fuss about on the XJT pilot lounge with him violating the NDA?

When has JB not violated a NDA with his facebook drama?

flynd94 02-08-2020 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2973442)
When has JB not violated a NDA with his facebook drama?


Yet no one on the pilot group has enough Ball$ to recall him. He should have never been elected.

StuckOnReserve 02-08-2020 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by UnitedExpress (Post 2973430)
What’s all the fuss about on the XJT pilot lounge with him violating the NDA?


He’s apparently got some secret information that he can’t share because of his union NDA. He’s being a tease.


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701EV 02-08-2020 08:16 PM

[QUOTE=StuckOnReserve;2973420]I’m think this may be version 2.0 of the don’t come here tactics that some of the disgruntled ASA guys were tying a few months ago.

SOR, check your facts son! The don't come here to XJT comes from ALPA not some ASA folks.

701EV

701EV 02-08-2020 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 2973508)
Yet no one on the pilot group has enough Ball$ to recall him. He should have never been elected.


flynd94, do you still work at XJT?

It appears that the Captain Rep from ORD is the only one fighting for the pilots!.

701EV


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