Originally Posted by ImperialxRat (Post 292224)

You also heard that the Delta flying was a "lucky find for us at the time".

If we didn't do the Delta flying, the planes would be on Branded or somewhere else.

Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound (Post 292203)

Even if it means a little less flying for us on the west coast.

Originally Posted by meritflyer (Post 292239)

This is the attitude that gives SKYW guys a bad name throughout the industry. It was never yours to begin with so it should be a wash when you aren't awarded any.

Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound (Post 292245)

So what should I have said? I am pretty sure I was not referring to the flying ever having been ours. Ok let me rephrase, I am so glad that you xjt guys were awarded that Delta flying over us pompous SkyWest pilots. How can I be any nicer about it? I have tried to be nice throughout this entire thread. Why are you guys always so touchy about the Delta flying?

Originally Posted by meritflyer (Post 292284)

I am not going to get into a flame war here. I do actually respect certain SkyWest guys.

As for your attitude and most the attitudes of the new SkyWest FO's - the entitlement has to go. You tend to think the west coast belonged to you and some how, it's your loss that ExpressJet is now in your back yard and growing. Just yesterday while jumpseating on Southwest, the SW FO was talking about a SKYW jumpseater recently was sitting in the JS telling the SWA guys about how SKYW is going to be flying for them very soon and quite possibly the route that we were flying. Needless to say the CA and FO both replied that spikey-haired FO would never be welcome back in their JS.

What kind of tool bags do you guys hire over there?

Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 292251)

No offense to any XJet folks, but they have something to prove now that CAL has kicked them out of the nest - they'll always be defensive about their flying :)

Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound (Post 292299)

There are tool bags every where. How you can say I have a sense of entitlement off that one statement I am not sure. How many times in this thread have I said I am glad you guys have that flying and hope you don't lose it. I tried to say something of that effect in almost every post to avoid looking like I thought that flying should be SkyWest flying. I have said it before and I will say it one more time, I am glad that you have that flying. It has been a great benefit to alot of good people who want to live on the West Coast at Express Jet. Never did I say I thought that flying should be ours. I have tried to compliment your pilot group and say I hope all goes well for you guys and I get this in return? I'm sorry but I am not so sure I am the one looking like I am entitled to something in this thread.

I could go on about tools from every airline I have had in the jumpseat but I know that is the minority. The only way to get respect is to give it and as for me I will continue to be the guy who waves to you guys as I pass on the ramp in SLC. Good luck, I don't know what else I could have said in this thread to try and show support and respect for your pilot group.:confused:

Originally Posted by nicholasblonde (Post 291687)

You're wrong--because you're ignoring labor laws that exist in every country, which override the need for an FAA licensed pilot to operate an N-registered aircraft.

By your logic, a Chinese company could just up and bring over some CRJs with Chinese registration, bring over Chinese pilots who would work for 10K USD per year, and start underbidding every US regional out of all US regional flying. That doesn't happen, because to be a comm operator in the US, you have to be a US company. And the second you're a US company, you have to get work permission for any employee of yours who isn't a US citizen by proving that you cannot find a qualified US citizen to fill each and every job you're bringing over foreigners for.

Example: A German businessman can bring his German reg G5 from Germany with his German flight crew who have German licenses, because it's private carriage...so as far as the US government is concerned, that German pilot doesn't need a work visa, because he's not working for a US business, he's working for a German business who happens to be flying a G5 around in US airspace.

But the second the German businessman tries to hold out that German-reg G5 to US customers for hire, he would have to prove US ownership, because a foreign company can't legally become a registered commercial operator. So he would have to find a US partner or holding co. and setup a US-based company to operate his plane for hire on US soil. And any US employer has to obtain work visas for their employees and also prove they couldn't fill those jobs with US pilots first.

Basically what I'm saying is--in order to operate commercial flights in OZ, you have to be majority owned by a OZ company. And for an OZ company to hire anyone, they would have to get work visas and prove they couldn't find qualified local Aussie nationals first.

Basically--you would have to have an Aussie national with FAA licenses to fly an N-reg plane commercially in Australia. Aussie nationals would get priority over you, as a US citizen, because of the local labor laws.

Originally Posted by supersix-4 (Post 292336)

If Quantas