Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 337402)

I guess that have come off a little different than I intended. In a weird and round about way, when XJT is shrinking because of RAH or anyone else growing, than in a sense "someone" loses a job at XJT. I guess you could think it as the guys we currently have in the hiring pool that have passed on RAH for months now, will more than likely have to wait at least 4-6 more months before they "may" be given a chance to start training.

My buddy wanted XJT badly, moved to IAH and worked his butt off to get in. He got interviews at RAH and XJT. Unfortunately the company he really wanted to work for is bleeding, because of lost flying, and he had to make the decision to go to RAH. I don't blame him, it's out of his control.

I find it funny that people think I am whining about losing flying here at XJT. I'm fine, I don't think my job is in jeopardy, I'm just worried with the way a really good company such as XJT is getting sacked for treating us decently. While there is nothing us pilots can do about it, the least you can do is to not bash me for pointing this out.

I can only pray RAH goes through contract negotiations and gets at least 10% higher pay than us at XJT, so we can do the same for our next round. Otherwise XJT will continue to bleed and we will have to give up concessions which will just reverse this trend in a negative way for everyone else.

By the way, I vote Republican, proud to have voted twice for Bush, and will continue to do so and no it has absolutely nothing to do with his views on faith or abortion (none of which drove me to vote for him). Just want to make that clear so no one thinks I am a bleeding heart liberal who thinks only for myself and complains about why life isn't fair. I will accept hardships and just find another way to fight for a way to make a living on my own. Its the only way I can live every day knowing I didn't have to take the easy way.

Originally Posted by keiundraj (Post 337409)

Now I understand why you talk the way you do...........................:D

Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 337411)

;)

sometimes I wonder the same thing

Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 337402)

I guess that have come off a little different than I intended. In a weird and round about way, when XJT is shrinking because of RAH or anyone else growing, than in a sense "someone" loses a job at XJT. I guess you could think it as the guys we currently have in the hiring pool that have passed on RAH for months now, will more than likely have to wait at least 4-6 more months before they "may" be given a chance to start training.

My buddy wanted XJT badly, moved to IAH and worked his butt off to get in. He got interviews at RAH and XJT. Unfortunately the company he really wanted to work for is bleeding, because of lost flying, and he had to make the decision to go to RAH. I don't blame him, it's out of his control.

Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 337417)

Christ, I hope you wouldn't blame your friend for going to RAH! That'd be pretty sheisty. One of my best friends from college is at RAH and we hang out all the time. Not once have we come to fisticuffs because he "stole my flying". I'm sorry to hear about your friend but to be honest, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for the guys soaking in the pool or still hoping for an interview. Personally, if I was trying to get on with a regional right now I wouldn't come to XJT. Don't get me wrong, I love it here and wouldn't undo it. But there are far better opportunities out there for a prospective new hire. Now, if I was some UFO, you're damn right I'd be worried cause I'll be the first one out the door if we do furlough and I also will be the one clinging to the bottom of a reserve or relief line the longest.



I didn't bash you. I merely recommended that you get your facts straight and avoid the personal attacks in the interest of representing XJT. Some of what you've posted here has been off base at best and in some cases just plain wrong. To be honest it made me cringe when you called RAH pilots scabs. Don't know if that post got deleted or not but I would recommend you become more familiar with the definition of that word. Not a label to be thrown around lightly in this industry.



I hope so too, man. To be fair, I think you are getting ahead of yourself. These reductions are not just because of CAL's deal with RAH. There has been a pullback in the entire market for 50-seat lift since oil began its steady march towards lunacy. Has nothing to do with who is flying for what mainline operator and everything to do with the cost of flying 50-seat jets over short segments. Unfortunately, all of XJT's exposure is in the 50-seat market so of course this is going to be felt more than a carrier operating larger airplanes. Again, just business and very much above our paygrade.



Ummm...ok. Not sure of the relevance here but thanks for sharing.


God, I hope not!:eek: I will NEVER EVER EVER EVER understand why that is something people use as a metric to decide who they want to RUN THE COUNTRY! Are you ever going to have an abortion? If your personal beliefs are against it then my guess is that your answer is a resounding "NO". So what does it matter to you if it's legal or not? I didn't mean to get off on a political tangent...just one of those things that gets under my skin. I won't even get into the religion discussion...

Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 337417)

Some of what you've posted here has been off base at best and in some cases just plain wrong. To be honest it made me cringe when you called RAH pilots scabs. Don't know if that post got deleted or not but I would recommend you become more familiar with the definition of that word. Not a label to be thrown around lightly in this industry.

Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 337046)

While we're at it. At XJT, 1st year, we get 4% match for our 401K plus an additional 2.5% contribution from the company. So for a 1st year FO, we get 6.5% contribution from the company for putting in 4%. Do you guys have that additional contribution amount? For a 18-year employee here, we get 6% match plus a 6% contribution from the company. That equals 12% contribution from the company for only putting in 6% = total of 18%!
What does RAH give you?
That is also an expense I'm sure CAL wanted to get away from.

Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 337055)

A job. That beats 18%.

Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 337056)

At least we now know your true feelings. Why don't we at XJT reduce our pay 1% below yours and get rid of all these nice extra benefits that we have and then steal your flying.

You still didn't answer my question. What does RAH give you for your 401K?

Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 337063)

First year nothing, second 2.5%.

My true feelings? I have no emotional thoughts on any of this. I'm taking nothing personal unlike some. Have all the 401K matching you want but I'd rather have a job.

Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 337063)

wow, no wonder you guys were able to take our flying.

Why don't you take this attitude to the guys at the Majors and see how much they agree with you? You are as low as a scab.

Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 337417)

I won't even get into the religion discussion...

Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 337428)

I dated an atheist once and it felt like I was dating a religious nut!
I may not be a religious person but I trust someone who believes in a God over someone that doesn't believe in right or wrong. I'm sure there are some good atheists out there, I just had a really bad experience with one that tried to push her beliefs on me. Go figure...

South Park has a great episode on this :D


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Originally Posted by Deez340 (Post 337422)

"Are you going to murder someone? No? So what does it matter if it's legal or not."

nice logic.

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