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POPA 03-09-2008 04:00 PM

How long was this before all the deleted posts?

BoilerUP 03-09-2008 04:57 PM

If it hasn't been said yet, folks should know RAH offered COLAs at Chautauqua in the fall of 2005.

The sky isn't falling...YET.

tpersuit 03-09-2008 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by reelbigchair (Post 337202)
The reason RAH got CAL flying may be they are cheaper than XJet, but the MAIN reason it didn't stay at XJet is because they want to diversify their routes among many carriers.

I can assure you it was because they were cheaper.

I'm not saying RAH guys are bad, I'm just saying don't try and act like taking our flying was just the "name of the game". It is hurting a better paid pilot group. Get over yourself. If I was in your shoes I would not be defending XJT loss to RAH at all.

All this will lead to is XJT maybe having to take consesions and taking someone else's flying, because we now have less block hours for our pilot staff. Now do you see how bad this can get?

I only hope we take Mesa's flying out of IAD and ORD, because, that sir would be a step in the right direction. Not like XJT flying going to RAH. We can all cheer if that happens.

G-Dog 03-09-2008 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 337023)
Do you know why RAH got XJT flying? It is because they have a cheaper operation. How much do your FO's get paid over there? How much do their FO's get paid on the 170? We have a more costly contract than RAH does, don't tell us they didn't cost CAL less.

Why don't you compare a 5-year 170 FO at RAH to a 5 year DC-9 FO at NW.

You are not educated. First of all, those rates were negotiated when 175s where not even a thought. Get over yourself. If you are and X-Jet employee, you giving your co-workers a bad name.

tpersuit 03-09-2008 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by G-Dog (Post 337271)
You are not educated. First of all, those rates were negotiated when 175s where not even a thought. Get over yourself. If you are and X-Jet employee, you giving your co-workers a bad name.

Get over myself, how about you get over yourself? You give the guys at RAH a bad name. Employees at XJT are losing flying because of our hard fought and really good pay contract (in terms of other regionals). Don't give me gripe sir, the only uneducated person is you.

Last I checked we negotiate when we get new aircraft. Not fly bigger ones at old rates

BoilerUP 03-09-2008 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 337274)
Get over myself, how about you get over yourself? You give the guys at RAH a bad name. Employees at XJT are losing flying because of our hard fought and really good pay contract (in terms of other regionals). Don't give me gripe sir, the only uneducated person is you.

Last I checked we negotiate when we get new aircraft. Not fly bigger ones at old rates

I don't work for either RAH or XJT, but as an observer with no dog in the fight I can tell you for a FACT that you are terribly misinformed about why things are happening the way they are at either company.

Do you know the circumstances surrounding the CHQ 2003 CBA? Do you know what the CHQ contract looked like before it? Do you know how big the company was then, vs. how it is now?

Until you know the answers to the questions above, you will be terribly misinformed on the topic.

You aren't losing flying because of your pilot contract, you're losing flying because mother CAL wanted to diversify their regional feed at the first possible moment...

HookEm 03-09-2008 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 337274)
Get over myself, how about you get over yourself?


This is CLASSIC... talk about uneducated. I don't see your co-workers chiming in to defend your poor arguments.

I hope that is because you are swimming in XJET's kool aid hiring pool, quit crying

tpersuit 03-09-2008 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 337280)
I don't work for either RAH or XJT

right there, you have no valid points here.

tpersuit 03-09-2008 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by HookEm (Post 337285)
This is CLASSIC... talk about uneducated. I don't see your co-workers chiming in to defend your poor arguments.

I hope that is because you are swimming in XJET's kool aid hiring pool, quit crying

Fine, rejoice that XJT is losing its flying to a cheaper regional!! This is great news for all us pilots!!!!

Superpilot92 03-09-2008 05:23 PM

It had nothing to do with pilot contracts and everything to do with CAL wanting to diversify so XJT didn't have a strong arm on CAL. It sucks but thats what happened.


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