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coryk 08-19-2013 12:25 PM

ExpressJet hiring
 
Are classes scheduled into 2014? More ERJ than CRJ? Are there many DEN or MSP commuters on the ERJ side?

skyxbomb 08-19-2013 12:28 PM

Hahaha nice!

Only facts on this thread please ladies and gents!!

Spoilers 08-19-2013 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by coryk (Post 1465982)
Are classes scheduled into 2014? More ERJ than CRJ? Are there many DEN or MSP commuters on the ERJ side?

I created is new thread since the other ExpressJet thread is just full of "he said, she said."

I'm guessing continued hiring into 2014, but more so on the ERJ side. Yes, there are commuters from DEN and MSP.

coryk 08-19-2013 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Spoilers (Post 1465993)
I'm guessing continued hiring into 2014, but more so on the ERJ side. Yes, there are commuters from DEN and MSP.

Thanks. Had a buddy just start class today, 32 people with one no-show. All ERJ.

Hurryage65 08-19-2013 12:45 PM

Everyone was assigned erj already? Or are you the last class that's not doing joint indoc

spud 08-19-2013 02:22 PM

A friend is in the class that started today. He told me they they were supposed to be the first class with combined indoc. A bunch of them were originally in the Aug 19 crj class got a call a couple weeks ago that they will do a joint indoc and can bid for aircraft. This morning they told them that they were all going to erj, no bidding for aircraft. He said a lot of them feel like they were deceived into taking the erj class when they wanted crj.

Thunderpig 08-19-2013 04:30 PM

Figured that was going to happen...

MatchPoint 08-19-2013 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by spud (Post 1466069)
A friend is in the class that started today. He told me they they were supposed to be the first class with combined indoc. A bunch of them were originally in the Aug 19 crj class got a call a couple weeks ago that they will do a joint indoc and can bid for aircraft. This morning they told them that they were all going to erj, no bidding for aircraft. He said a lot of them feel like they were deceived into taking the erj class when they wanted crj.

I know it sucks but I wouldn't call it being deceived since it’s all speculation until all transfers are processed and the next vacancy report gets issued. They give their opinion based upon the best information they have at the time but anyone who takes someone’s opinion as fact then gets burned just learned a valuable lesson.

gvinflight 08-19-2013 05:17 PM

The Airplane doesnt really matter. I want the ERJ just to get another type on the license. So whats the scoop with the new hires? How long are folks waiting to hear?

flyguy94 08-19-2013 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by gvinflight (Post 1466208)
The Airplane doesnt really matter. I want the ERJ just to get another type on the license. So whats the scoop with the new hires? How long are folks waiting to hear?

Hear about an interview? If you've applied, have the minimums and no crazy black marks you'll probably hear within a week. After the interview you'll hear back within a day or two.

tankerdude 08-20-2013 03:21 AM

I was one of the CRJ guys. Luckily I heard ahead of time that everyone was being forced into the ERJ. I appear to be the no show :)

Ted Striker 08-20-2013 04:12 AM

you want erj side. shorter time off rsv and better rsv rules. if you live in a crj base then its a different story.

cws1028 08-20-2013 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy94 (Post 1466382)
Hear about an interview? If you've applied, have the minimums and no crazy black marks you'll probably hear within a week. After the interview you'll hear back within a day or two.

Took me exactly a week to hear back from the interview to class date. That seems more average right now. They don't call you until fingerprints and drug screen come back (so they say) and that takes about a week.

gvinflight 08-20-2013 09:51 AM

Ok. Well, I exceed all the quals. Lets see what happens. Whats the story with the MCI base? Senior? Junior?

FSUpilot 08-20-2013 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by gvinflight (Post 1466699)
Ok. Well, I exceed all the quals. Lets see what happens. Whats the story with the MCI base? Senior? Junior?

junior.......

gvinflight 08-20-2013 10:06 AM

Thats a plus. Now just need a call. One week huh?

DarinFred 08-20-2013 10:09 AM

2 started CRJ training in Atlanta yesterday.

coryk 08-20-2013 07:01 PM

I hear they're doing a sim eval now for people without a "proven background." Any truth to this?

Spoilers 08-20-2013 07:09 PM

Here is the latest:

-Sim Eval added for applicants "without proven backgrounds". Whatever that means?!
-Interviews are now being conducted in ATL and IAH.
-60 new-hires/month, excpect all ERJ for now

Nevets 08-21-2013 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by tankerdude (Post 1466404)
I was one of the CRJ guys. Luckily I heard ahead of time that everyone was being forced into the ERJ. I appear to be the no show :)

Don't want to be based at any of the ERJ bases?

flyguy94 08-21-2013 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by Spoilers (Post 1467082)
Here is the latest:

-Sim Eval added for applicants "without proven backgrounds". Whatever that means?!
-Interviews are now being conducted in ATL and IAH.
-60 new-hires/month, excpect all ERJ for now

It will be interesting to see if they can find 60/m. I hope so! Less time on reserve. Where did you hear 60/m?

mexipilot84 08-21-2013 05:57 AM


2 started CRJ training in Atlanta yesterday.

That's shady, they told us no CRJ class for the 19th class. We're all in IAH for the jungle jet. Little bit of a bait and switch. Of course the instructors didn't even know we were told we'd have options on arrival and then surprise!

Now we can only wait till we can bid over to the CRJ.

berge7f9 08-21-2013 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by skyxbomb (Post 1465987)

Only facts on this thread please ladies and gents!!

ExpressJet was barely able to make money in the 2nd quarter of this year and is losing money the rest of the year.

ExpressJet is dragging down the profitability of SkyWest Inc.

We are still in JCBA negotiations for over 3 years now and our latest offer by management includes "significant financial concessions."

Our contract with Delta includes a rate reset coming up in 2015 - once this goes through we will really start to hemorrhage money. Delta has said that "it will be able to cut costs dramatically by 2017 with contract clauses allowing it to reset rates at its regional feeders to match its 2nd lowest contract"

Both pilot groups are adamantly opposed to any sort of paycut or QOL cut.


My prediction is that in 2-3 years, unless there really is a pilot shortage (j/k), ExpressJet will go under and its pilots that want to stay will be offered preferential employment with SkyWest Airlines.

But that's just me.

gvinflight 08-21-2013 06:42 AM

I just heard something similar...that SkyWest was approaching the pilot group to reduce pay to increase profitability. If this is true, then it must be XJT draining the SkyWest bank account, and eventually, only one will survive...Who knows though...It's anyone's guess and definitely the stronger CEO's desire more money...

berge7f9 08-21-2013 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by gvinflight (Post 1467280)
I just heard something similar...that SkyWest was approaching the pilot group to reduce pay to increase profitability. If this is true, then it must be XJT draining the SkyWest bank account, and eventually, only one will survive...Who knows though...It's anyone's guess and definitely the stronger CEO's desire more money...

There's absolutely no reason for SkyWest pilots to take any cuts because the overwhelming majority of Inc's 2nd quarter profit is from SkyWest Airlines. They have also been cost effective to receive new flying such as the E175s for United.

gvinflight 08-21-2013 07:09 AM

I know! Which is what surprised me about this call. Skywest has been the leading airline for United and Delta and now I'm certain they are the leading for Airways and American. But, at the same time, this does not come as a surprise, especially with the way Delta has been "trimming the fat" at other such as Endevour, or Pinnacle (whatever their name is), and equally how AA has done with Eagle. I don't know, its all numbers and speculation. But who knows.

yimke 08-21-2013 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by Ted Striker (Post 1466417)
you want erj side. shorter time off rsv and better rsv rules. if you live in a crj base then its a different story.

2 years in iah is short?

SiShane 08-21-2013 08:35 AM

Newb question but if Skywest is making all the money and pilots are super happy over there, why don't they (SKW inc) just make Expressjet more aligned with how Skywest operates? Or would that be a concession?

gvinflight 08-21-2013 08:49 AM

Im sure it would be a concession. After all, XJT is union and SKW is not. XJT wouldnt want that anyways, because the union is there after all, to protect the pilots. SKW has all the power and all the control. They theoretically, are the fat kid with the magnifying glass over the ant hill...When I was there though, it was a great experience and a great company to work for and with. They always seemed to want to help you, but the longer you were there, the more they took advantage.

Nevets 08-21-2013 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by gvinflight (Post 1467280)
I just heard something similar...that SkyWest was approaching the pilot group to reduce pay to increase profitability. If this is true, then it must be XJT draining the SkyWest bank account, and eventually, only one will survive...Who knows though...It's anyone's guess and definitely the stronger CEO's desire more money...

What do you mean when you say, "stronger CEO's desire for more money"?

MrMustache 08-21-2013 10:27 AM

Must be getting thin on applicants. I was just offered a class date... I interviewed almost 2 years ago and turned down the offer, then and now.

gvinflight 08-21-2013 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1467352)
What do you mean when you say, "stronger CEO's desire for more money"?

To a CEO, business is business. Look at Tilton, Lorenzo, and the plethora of others that have tanked an airline just to make a few extra. That's just aviation. What about GM's Smith and the many others. Its just an endeavor for a company's management to make more money one way or another, and at any costs. I've yet to meet one that truly cares about their employees and the employees livelihood.

Nevets 08-21-2013 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by gvinflight (Post 1467450)

Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1467352)
What do you mean when you say, "stronger CEO's desire for more money"?

To a CEO, business is business. Look at Tilton, Lorenzo, and the plethora of others that have tanked an airline just to make a few extra. That's just aviation. What about GM's Smith and the many others. Its just an endeavor for a company's management to make more money one way or another, and at any costs. I've yet to meet one that truly cares about their employees and the employees livelihood.

But who is this stronger CEO you are talking about? Who is he stronger than?

Fozz179fs 08-22-2013 07:17 PM

Anyone know the status of the MCI, ORD, CLE bases as far as if any new hires are going to these places? Or what the chances of a new hire going to one of these three.

cws1028 08-23-2013 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Fozz179fs (Post 1468281)
Anyone know the status of the MCI, ORD, CLE bases as far as if any new hires are going to these places? Or what the chances of a new hire going to one of these three.

From what I have been told, you can get MCI if you want it. ORD and CLE are in the middle, maybe slightly more senior.

FDX8891 08-23-2013 12:36 PM

Order of seniority (1 being most senior)...this is just my semi-educated guess.

1.DEN
2.IAH
3.ORD
4.CLE
5.EWR
6.MCI
7.IAD

Should be able to get whatever you want within a few months of being hired...Except for DEN maybe.

HB Pilot 08-23-2013 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by FDX8891 (Post 1468703)
Order of seniority (1 being most senior)...this is just my semi-educated guess.

1.DEN
2.IAH
3.ORD
4.CLE
5.EWR
6.MCI
7.IAD

Should be able to get whatever you want within a few months of being hired...Except for DEN maybe.

The junior guy in Denver is a 2007 hire. I'd say you can take the "maybe" out of your statement.

Fozz179fs 08-23-2013 08:53 PM

Thanks for all the info. If a new hire was able to get MCI how long would someone be on reserve?

coryk 08-24-2013 12:00 PM

What ashes were awarded in the last class? I heard some guys got ORD?

flyguy94 08-24-2013 02:15 PM

7 ERJ FO IAH, 9 ERJ FO EWR, 3 ERJ FO ORD, and 2 ERJ FO MCI


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