Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2242465)

Just heard down the grapevine that the company is working on raising FO pay to be the highest in the industry. Not sure if this will be in pay rates, retention bonuses, etc.

Originally Posted by AceyCandler (Post 2242467)

Too Little too late. Pilots entering the regional industry know they can expect to be making CA pay in 24-36 months at pretty much every regional... except XJT.

Originally Posted by Hou757 (Post 2242010)

Afraid you have the wrong person there chief. No where have I seen Skywest say they are shutting down XJT in 2017. All they post is when the CPA expires. We've seen several short term extensions over the years and I'm afraid that is all we shall see in the near future. They have stated many times that they see a viable demand for 50 seat lift into the future. I dont see anywhere that they say they are shutting down XJT. If you are so sure that is happening then you should be long gone to Commutair or somewhere else!

Originally Posted by Jefferson (Post 2242599)

It's really simple. The next time you feel like chiming in....just don't. Just go away. Seriously. Go.

Originally Posted by Nevjets (Post 2242574)

According to the last 10Q, there haven't been any short term extensions. But I do agree there will be a viable 50 seat market. UAL has a press release stating they are planning on having less than 100 fifty seat regional jets by 2019. UAL has given TSA 40 of the 145s (plus the dozen they already had flying for UAL) and Commutair another 40 more. And Skywest also operates 54 CRJ 200s for UAL as well. That all points in one direction to me. But that's just my educated guess. I could be wrong. I could just hope...

Originally Posted by No Lies (Post 2242651)

FYI. Commutair will have 61 ERJ-145's. They are getting 40 ERJ's on top of the 21 Dash planes that are being replaced by 21 ERJ's starting next year.

The total fleet count as it stands now will be 61 ERJ's as soon as they can get them from XJT with another 20 on option for C5.

Originally Posted by hslightnin (Post 2242882)

Can you link to an announcement that says 61 + 20 options. Pretty sure its 40 +20

Originally Posted by hslightnin (Post 2242882)

Can you link to an announcement that says 61 + 20 options. Pretty sure its 40 +20

Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2242465)

Just heard down the grapevine that the company is working on raising FO pay to be the highest in the industry. Not sure if this will be in pay rates, retention bonuses, etc.

Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 2243169)

With the Delta and AA wo's stepping up the game with pay rates and bonuses,XJT would have to be somewhere in the neighborhood of $65-70k for fo's to top them.I'm not saying it won't happen, but it's highly unlikely Skw will come off of that kind of cash for a company that they obviously plan on shrinking.

Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 2242500)

Six months is a long time in the regional airline industry. I could make convincing arguments for eventual 3 year upgrades here and for continued 9 year upgrades. Nobody really knows what we will be like in 2 years. I drive to work, enjoy my job, and have a solid backup plan. This has been a great place for me.

Originally Posted by surreal1221 (Post 2243500)

Okay, I'll play along..

In one post make your convincing argument about three year upgrades...



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Originally Posted by IDIOTPILOT (Post 2243547)

The "United" policy is no offline jumpseating intl on XJT. No one can say definitely one way or another. I can't say what your experience will be. If you can Zed or something, you may have better luck.

Originally Posted by CODs4ever (Post 2243870)

Does that include using CASS or JS privileges to sit in the cabin?

Originally Posted by surreal1221 (Post 2243500)

Okay, I'll play along..

In one post make your convincing argument about three year upgrades...



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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 2245274)

Did you miss the "no one really knows" comment? As I said, six months is a long time in the Regional industry. Any opinion beyond that time frame is conjecture.

Originally Posted by C172 (Post 2247335)

New flying at XJT announced, American awarded ExpressJet with 12 CRJ-700s out of DFW.

Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2247360)

Were are the 700's coming from??...

Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2247360)

Were are the 700's coming from??...

Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2242465)

Just heard down the grapevine that the company is working on raising FO pay to be the highest in the industry. Not sure if this will be in pay rates, retention bonuses, etc.

Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 2247535)

Good!

The more leap frogging of regional pay there is, the better.

Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 2247636)

If XJT can top what the WO's are currently offering, I'm sure their application count will dramatically increase. They will have to be near 70k a year for fo's. Right now money talks. I'm listening lol

Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 2247636)

If XJT can top what the WO's are currently offering, I'm sure their application count will dramatically increase. They will have to be near 70k a year for fo's. Right now money talks. I'm listening lol

Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2247733)

Maybe. But it's more than just money attracting new hires to WOs. Industry-leading pay, no-interview flow, industry-leading qol and schedule flexibility (at PSA), and a relatively quick upgrade (PDT, PSA, and by next year probably Envoy). Even with higher pay, it's hard to compete with all of that.

Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2247821)

It's funny when you guys talk about your SAP at PSA, how you can get 20 days off and get 65 hours or pay or 100 hr of pay with 12 days off. Well here, I can get 75 hours with 20 days off, or 125 hours with 12 days off.

Oh, and no line holder ever has to work holidays according to your SAP cheerleaders.

Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2194493)

And upgrade time is falling.

Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2247821)

It's funny when you guys talk about your SAP at PSA, how you can get 20 days off and get 65 hours or pay or 100 hr of pay with 12 days off. Well here, I can get 75 hours with 20 days off, or 125 hours with 12 days off.

Oh, and no line holder ever has to work holidays according to your SAP cheerleaders.

Originally Posted by No Lies (Post 2247915)

Almost as funny as an XJT guy telling everyone that upgrade time is falling.



What is the upgrade time right now? What is the date of the most JR CA at XJT?

Originally Posted by andili61 (Post 2247975)

Upgrade time has fallen to 7 or 8 decades. There is not written records of when the most recent upgrade took place. Some geologist believe it may have taken place somewhere between the paleolithic era and mesolithic era.

Originally Posted by andili61 (Post 2247975)

Upgrade time has fallen to 7 or 8 decades. There is not written records of when the most recent upgrade took place. Some geologist believe it may have taken place somewhere between the paleolithic era and mesolithic era.

Originally Posted by WakeWash (Post 2247937)

With the SAP, the above is possible for the most senior to the. It's junior pilots. That's what's great about it, ANY line holder can do that, and yes, ANY and ALL line pilots can drop holidays. Because the SAP happens with no reserve grid to stop it. Sure you may get what you're saying at ExpressJet, but with PBS those types of schedules are for the senior guys while the junior ones are left with crap lines and 11 days off. And everyone else claiming they have SAP, has a reserve grid that restricts how many pilots can drop trips and move stuff around, PSA does not have that. It's unrestricted.



While I'm no cheerleader for the SAP or PSA, it annoys me when guys who don't understand how it really works start talking like it's nothing and their company has it as well. It really is the biggest QOL tool around, and NO ONE else has it.

Originally Posted by Nevjets (Post 2248199)

Only the CRJ side has pbs. The ERJ side has good line building rules, good vacation rules, good trading rules including the initial line improvement window and the secondary line improvement window with bad day worse day trades. These are all things that all line holders can take advantage of although not all line holders can get Halloween and Super Bowl Sunday off.

Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2248222)

And proboly part of the reason that they are going from 280 airplanes down to ~100.... while the ASA side remains status quo..and its not Just the pilots. The MX contract isn't favorable for the company...