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FML666 12-07-2017 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by AboveMins (Post 2478842)
My money is on the ATL brain trust proving you wrong

I spent 12 years at Atlanta's Special Airline and that makes me LMAO. So true.


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2478912)
I have AQP next month. Of course I have not seen anyone from management since the Sheehan days... but if one shows up... what do I say?? Thanks for all you do? Our partners are noticing?

Ask them how you supposedly cost the company $340 an hour in pilot compensation alone.

Superx 12-08-2017 04:18 AM

Ask them how you supposedly cost the company $340 an hour in pilot compensation alone.[/QUOTE]

That's what skywest bills xjet for us, then says we are to expensive:D:eek:

gatorhater 12-08-2017 07:46 AM

Not saying there isn’t some funny math in some areas, but $340/ hr for a crew ain’t too far off. If that is per seat, you’re right to question it.

$150/hr*1.5 for draft/ext coverage=$225+30%overhead (general average in all business)~$300.

Add in some $$ to cover ext bonuses and other costs and you’re pretty close to a plausible $340.

I’m gone from ASA now and I hate to see what’s happening to a great pilot group, but there are probably easier areas to cook books. For example, “IT services” is a nebulous term without hard numbers attached, pilots have pay charts with published numbers for comparison.

FML666 12-08-2017 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by gatorhater (Post 2479809)
Not saying there isn’t some funny math in some areas, but $340/ hr for a crew ain’t too far off. If that is per seat, you’re right to question it.

$150/hr*1.5 for draft/ext coverage=$225+30%overhead (general average in all business)~$300.

Add in some $$ to cover ext bonuses and other costs and you’re pretty close to a plausible $340.

I’m gone from ASA now and I hate to see what’s happening to a great pilot group, but there are probably easier areas to cook books. For example, “IT services” is a nebulous term without hard numbers attached, pilots have pay charts with published numbers for comparison.

Plausible. Still not the wisest idea to toss that number at a bunch of AQP guys who've been upgraded, demoted, displaced, and are now watching their jobs circle the drain. Then again I lived though the unblinking Drew Bedson, the "It doesn't matter how we got here"/"$80 for a roll of ACARS paper" Scott Hall shenanigans, and the brilliance of the short-lived "SureJet" rebranding so I'd be a fool to expect anything less from the current regime.

SkipperBaloo 12-08-2017 08:20 AM

Its monopoly money to them anyway. How does our $340/hr compare to Skywest and our other competition? Interesting that we are so expensive and can't compete when every other regional is handing over $10-20k just for walking in the door and sticking around for a few. Our rates are on the lower end of the spectrum too so they need to stop playing that card because its total bs

Blackhawk 12-08-2017 10:19 AM

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3317295-united-continental-said-circling-expressjet

Superx 12-08-2017 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2479948)
https://seekingalpha.com/news/3317295-united-continental-said-circling-expressjet

Will alpa or co. Need to say something. Or everybody will be gone

N6279P 12-08-2017 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by Superx (Post 2479991)
Will alpa or co. Need to say something. Or everybody will be gone

English please?

blockplus 12-08-2017 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 2480018)
English please?

Translation.....
Well...... alpa and the company need to say somthing or everyone will leave before it happens.

Superx 12-08-2017 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by blockplus (Post 2480037)
Translation.....
Well...... alpa and the company need to say somthing or everyone will leave before it happens.

Sorry was at a red light trying to type before it turned green:D


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