Search
Notices

Consolidation???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-12-2017, 09:51 AM
  #11  
Line Holder
Thread Starter
 
KAFTKTA's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: B-777 F/O
Posts: 65
Default To again ask the question...

Anybody know what happens if you don't get your hours during consolidation? My last IOE leg was a checkride so I have 150 days since my type ride to get my hours. However; I'm not PDO bumping and I'm not canceling my vacation...I just want to know what happens when I don't get my hours because...I'm not going to get them.
KAFTKTA is offline  
Old 10-12-2017, 10:00 AM
  #12  
Permanent Reserve
 
navigatro's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,677
Default

Originally Posted by KAFTKTA View Post
Anybody know what happens if you don't get your hours during consolidation? My last IOE leg was a checkride so I have 150 days since my type ride to get my hours. However; I'm not PDO bumping and I'm not canceling my vacation...I just want to know what happens when I don't get my hours because...I'm not going to get them.
I'm pretty sure you have to go through the entire course again.
navigatro is offline  
Old 10-12-2017, 10:56 AM
  #13  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: FO
Posts: 3,032
Default

I believe it is a sim check and you then have to repeat your 100 hours.
BlueMoon is offline  
Old 10-12-2017, 11:17 AM
  #14  
Line Holder
Thread Starter
 
KAFTKTA's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: B-777 F/O
Posts: 65
Default

Originally Posted by BlueMoon View Post
I believe it is a sim check and you then have to repeat your 100 hours.
Thank you for the info.
KAFTKTA is offline  
Old 10-12-2017, 06:41 PM
  #15  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: B-767 FO
Posts: 554
Default

Originally Posted by KAFTKTA View Post
Anybody know what happens if you don't get your hours during consolidation? My last IOE leg was a checkride so I have 150 days since my type ride to get my hours. However; I'm not PDO bumping and I'm not canceling my vacation...I just want to know what happens when I don't get my hours because...I'm not going to get them.
FOM 3.13

If the required 100 hours of Line Operating Flight Time are not completed within 120 days, that time may be extended to 150 days provided on or before the 120th day:

- The pilot satisfactorily completes Refresher Training,

- or

- The pilot satisfactorily completes a supervised Line Operating Flight with a Line Check Airman [FAR 121.434 (h)(4)(ii)].

After that, I believe it's a Consolidation Reset Sim.
FlyingOkra is offline  
Old 10-12-2017, 07:30 PM
  #16  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Overnitefr8's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: 767 CA
Posts: 1,876
Default

About 8 years ago when I was last consolidating, the schedulers told me to submit PDO bump requests while on reserve after 10 a.m. the day prior after they have made the sick call assignments for the next day. A call to the scheduler beforehand to explain is not a bad idea.

Also, talk to the person you want to bump. Don't just submit a bump without the other person knowing about it. Have had that happen twice. Usually people will gladly get bumped. However, that person may be on that trip for a specific reason (visiting family, friends, wedding etc.). If it's a deadhead, that person may need the bank money to cover deficits elsewhere. Doesn't do commuters without a crashpad any good to get stuck in domicile midweek for a day.
Overnitefr8 is offline  
Old 10-13-2017, 05:11 PM
  #17  
Proponent of Hysteria
 
skypine27's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: "Part of the problem." : JL
Posts: 1,053
Default

Originally Posted by KAFTKTA View Post
Anybody know what happens if you don't get your hours during consolidation? My last IOE leg was a checkride so I have 150 days since my type ride to get my hours. However; I'm not PDO bumping and I'm not canceling my vacation...I just want to know what happens when I don't get my hours because...I'm not going to get them.
I sent you a PM explaning exactly what happens.
skypine27 is offline  
Old 10-14-2017, 08:44 AM
  #18  
Line Holder
Thread Starter
 
KAFTKTA's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: B-777 F/O
Posts: 65
Default

Originally Posted by skypine27 View Post
I sent you a PM explaning exactly what happens.
Thanks for the info.
KAFTKTA is offline  
Old 10-24-2017, 01:25 AM
  #19  
Gets Weekends Off
 
JetJocF14's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: B-777 Captain
Posts: 943
Default

Originally Posted by KAFTKTA View Post
Anybody know what happens if you don't get your hours during consolidation?
Had this happen to me about five years ago when I checked out on the triple in the early summer. I only needed 25 hours to finish up but had to have some surgery and after healing up for two months missed my consolendation date.

What happens next and the protocol may have changed but you go back in the box for another checkride. As I recall, I believe I got one day of training and then the ride. This ride covers all the basics but was not as intense as the actual type ride.

Once you have completed this new checkride this will resets your checkride date and you will now be on either the new 9 month cycle or the old 6 month cycle, from this new date depending on your airplane. MD-11 I believe are still on the six month cycle but don’t quote me on that. You also now have 120 days to finish your consolidation. Talk to your IOE scheduler and they should be able to give you the details. Good luck.
JetJocF14 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
fireman0174
Major
14
01-12-2021 07:41 PM
ShyGuy
Major
36
08-31-2015 11:37 PM
jetliner1526
Major
40
01-23-2015 10:37 AM
warthog
Cargo
7
12-17-2007 05:53 AM
RockBottom
Major
12
01-02-2007 07:02 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices