Does anyone have any practical experience with this new nugget of goodness from our 2015 CBA?

“The training slot you requested is being denied due to Staffing Needs.
You will receive a continuous Slot Denial Payment (SDP) each month
(beginning SEP18) until you are awarded or assigned a slot as
long as you continue to bid each month and are again denied another
do not bid enough, and you are senior enough to be awarded a slot,
you will not be entitled to an SDP for that month (refer to CBA
Section 24 for more information).”

 

Was your written word for word like that?

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pretty much. some content seems to be missing because it doesn’t exactly make sense in some parts

 

Yep but trust the union to negotiate a new retirement plan. That entire 2015 CBA is a load of crap. I still don’t understand why anybody voted for this POS. But to each his own. SMF

 

What's your current seat and what seat is your training for (what did you bid?)

 

a300 f/o to 75 capt

 

CBA Sec 24. E. SLOT DENIAL PAYMENT (SDP)...better than an STD!

Payment for WB F/O to NB CA is =$3,500! Not too shabby. Per month as long as you continue to bid available training dates and the company continues to deny your award...and assuming your not age restricted.

Watch out for the carryover language though...it could bite you if you bid carryover and it conflicts with the training slot. It essentially says you have made an invalid bid.

From the CBA:
iii. A bid for a training slot that conflicts with a carryover trip, or carryover block of R-days, from the previous bid period, shall be deemed an invalid bid. A training slot conflicts with a carryover trip if there are less than 48 hours between the scheduled termination of the carryover trip (at the time of the Training Bid processing), and the beginning of the local base day (e.g., 0130 LBT) on which the training slot is scheduled to start. A training slot conflicts with a carryover block of R-days unless there are at least two local base days between the last scheduled carryover R-day, and the local base day on which the training slot is scheduled to start. This 48 hour buffer may not be waived.

iv. Denial of Training Slots

(a) The Company may choose to deny a pilot a training slot award, or bypass a pilot when inversely assigning training slots, because of:
(1) Staffing needs in the “FROM” crew position;
(2) Regulated age considerations;
(3) The Company’s desired syllabus type for a given training slot does not satisfy the pilot’s minimum required training syllabus type; or
(4) New hire training requirements.

(b) A pilot who is denied a training slot award shall be entitled to Slot Denial Payment(s) (SDP) in accordance with Section 24.E.

 

thanks. you should get w AS. She’s looking for volunteers to staff the CAT.

 

I'd love to see the stats on how many people are truly awarded SDP. I'm thinking the number is going to be in the single digits.

How could the union negotiators give up Passover Pay for this crap SDP language. And carryover, something the company WANTS you to fly, makes your bid invalid?? Who negotiated this crap? What the heck were they thinking?

I read the contract. I voted H**L NO !!! But to think we are just learning about little pitfalls like this is ridiculous.

I've said this many times now, I have no idea why people are coming to this company over the other alternatives. ALPA screwed us tremendously with this contract. We aren't going to get it fixed the next time around. We are going to get our throats cut because the crew force is so divided, not just young versus old, but ALPA supporters versus those who hate ALPA and those who don't want a union.

 

I share your sentiments about CBA 2015. However, I think you'd be hard pressed to find too many pilots at FedEx (or any airline for that matter) who would opt to have no union at all. It's always been a necessary evil in my view, warts and all.

That said, the incompetence of those involved in negotiating CBA 2015 is truly amazing. Either that, or they saw all these pitfalls, loopholes and vague language and sent it out anyway. Whichever one it was, they really should feel nothing but shame.